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Steedy
04-29-2012, 03:48 PM
People, people, people!

PLEASE show a little class, and rotate your photos to the perpendicular before attaching them to your posts.

Steedy cannot tilt his head 90 degrees to view your sideways photos.

Thank you very much. :)

pepamahina
04-29-2012, 04:15 PM
No problem, just turn your computer screen on it's side! ;)

OldePhart
04-29-2012, 04:15 PM
No problem, just turn your computer screen on it's side! ;)

Hmmmm...maybe his computer screen already is on its side...

uuuuke
04-29-2012, 04:17 PM
Just tilt your computer screen 90 degrees ;)

SuzukHammer
04-29-2012, 04:21 PM
Get off the couch.

SuzukHammer
04-29-2012, 04:22 PM
People, people, people!

PLEASE show a little class, and rotate your photos to the perpendicular before attaching them to your posts.

Steedy cannot tilt his head 90 degrees to view your sideways photos.

Thank you very much. :)


Perpendicular means that the uke should be viewed from a horizontal position?

pakhan
04-29-2012, 04:23 PM
With gloss finished instruments, a perpendicular shot is likely to give you a lot of reflections.

watrr
04-29-2012, 05:35 PM
view it on your phone and tilt it!

consitter
04-29-2012, 11:48 PM
So, when you say "show a little class" do you mean Kindergarteners, or just a small number of kids?

ICMB
04-29-2012, 11:55 PM
perpendicular is 90 degrees like he said

WhenDogsSing
04-30-2012, 03:51 AM
Steedy cannot tilt his head 90 degrees to view your sideways photos.

This reminds me of a Seinfeld episode.

Plainsong
04-30-2012, 11:10 AM
With natural light and a satin finish, upright works great. But with gloss, not so much. The Kanilea here is not half as good looking in the pic as it is in real life. Here's vertical versus horizontal.

The horizontal works much better:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4080/4901309223_e4ff9173ba_z.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4097/4901894264_7b79dd47e1_z.jpg

jackwhale
04-30-2012, 01:49 PM
Somebody's a little grumpy today.

Steedy
04-30-2012, 03:11 PM
With gloss finished instruments, a perpendicular shot is likely to give you a lot of reflections.


With natural light and a satin finish, upright works great. But with gloss, not so much. The Kanilea here is not half as good looking in the pic as it is in real life. Here's vertical versus horizontal.

The horizontal works much better:


No, no, I didn't mean vertical versus horizontal ukuleles. I meant photos that are obviously turned on their sides and not properly oriented, like the following:

hmgberg
04-30-2012, 03:17 PM
So, when you say "show a little class" do you mean Kindergarteners, or just a small number of kids?

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Steedy
04-30-2012, 03:22 PM
Okay, let's try this again after using the magic "Rotate" function. (It's really very easy):

Plainsong
04-30-2012, 03:23 PM
No, no, I didn't mean vertical versus horizontal ukuleles. I meant photos that are obviously turned on their sides and not properly oriented, like the following:

Ah, that's what I get for only thinking I read the thread. My bad. I can only come up with that they don't know how to rotate an image.... or they haven't had a V8.

Steedy
04-30-2012, 03:34 PM
Thank you Plainsong. BTW, that's a beautiful Kanilea you got there! :)

Plainsong
04-30-2012, 03:39 PM
I feel like its deja vu all over again. There's a new Ohana thread that might be a Steedy-neck-cramper. :) I don't want to hijack the thread with gratuitous Kanile'a porn, but if you click on my sig, that's nothing, you should see the BACK of it.

Steedy
04-30-2012, 04:06 PM
There's a new Ohana thread that might be a Steedy-neck-cramper... :)

Oh the horror!

:cool:

jmw
04-30-2012, 04:53 PM
There's a new Ohana thread that might be a Steedy-neck-cramper. :)

Sorry, that was my fault/thread. :( For some reason the iPhone photos uploaded sideways.

Give me your address and I'll send you two aspirin for your neck cramps. ;)

Steedy
04-30-2012, 06:07 PM
Sorry, that was my fault/thread. :( For some reason the iPhone photos uploaded sideways.

Give me your address and I'll send you two aspirin for your neck cramps. ;)

Ha ha, marry me? ;)

Teek
04-30-2012, 10:42 PM
Just FYI to anyone who can't rotate yet: Windows Picture Viewer is generally the default image viewer for a WinX machine. It has little arrows along the bottom, one going left, one right. Click the direction you want to go. Close the program, it will save the orientation. Or you can view your image as a thumbnail in its folder, right click and choose either rotate clockwise or rotate counterclockwise on the pop up menu. It's 2012, little kids do basic basic stuff on a computer now. Quit being afraid of it, it's just a computer. Even my 75 year old mother who never had one nice word to say about a computer and swore she'd never have one, has one now and uses it.

If you're on a Mac, there's your problem right there.

If you're using an iPhone, I have to go find out from the 8 year old who I babysit. ;)

PS: No offense meant to anyone, if anyone is offended I apologize, I sometimes turn into an idiot after 12am, but I can't tell because I've turned into a, well, you know.

Manalishi
04-30-2012, 11:02 PM
Anyone using Windows has a program called 'Paint'
as standard. It will easily rotate and re-size images
at a basic level in seconds.

Steedy
05-01-2012, 04:55 AM
Ha ha, marry me? ;)

Holy crap, I gotta quit drunk-posting! :eek:

I'll try to show a little class instead:

glass
05-01-2012, 05:16 AM
I think Jake was in Australia?

http://i1056.photobucket.com/albums/t378/kenoglass/IMG_0853.jpg

Steedy
05-01-2012, 05:29 AM
Well, at least he's perpendicular...

Teek
05-01-2012, 09:20 AM
Anyone using Windows has a program called 'Paint'
as standard. It will easily rotate and re-size images
at a basic level in seconds.

Ah, but they would have to open Paint FIRST... and then navigate to the photo to import it, then click Image on the navbar to get a drop down to get to Rotate.. and THEN they have to save it. Even if they just right click and choose Paint via the "open with" on the popup menu, it's too confusing.

The least number of steps = best program. Over the years I have worked with computer newbies who can barely figure out how to turn the pc on. And I spent 2 1/2 years working with a guy who, no matter how many times I showed him, couldn't navigate folders, but he was great at closing multiple browser tabs when I was working online, say in the website with one window open to the CMS and the others to preview changes across several browsers. Just go hit that big red X again sir, that's just so helpful, NOT!

Plainsong
05-01-2012, 04:17 PM
Yeah, Preview on Mac rotates images, and if you're using an iphone, then you probably import into iPhoto or Aperture, which of course rotate images. I can't remember if the Photos app on iOs rotates or not, I think maybe it does. But then Snapseed certainly does.

But hey, the Ohana still looked nice! Wasn't that Zebrawood?

itsme
05-01-2012, 04:50 PM
Ah, but they would have to open Paint FIRST... and then navigate to the photo to import it, then click Image on the navbar to get a drop down to get to Rotate.. and THEN they have to save it. Even if they just right click and choose Paint via the "open with" on the popup menu, it's too confusing.
Haha! But the thing that gets me most are HUGE images where the subject/focus is maybe 10% of the image and you have to scroll all over to see it because of the overall size. Often there's a ton of distracting crap in the background, like an unmade bed or dirty clothes on the floor. And for crying out loud, if you're using your webcam in your bedroom, close the closet door behind you so it's a little more aesthetically pleasing, okay?

There's this thing called "crop", ever heard of it? :rolleyes:

If Photoshop is too much for you and Paint too weak, there are others that are inbetween and even (gasp!) free. I love IrfanView, it's my go-to program for quickie photo edits, like crop and minor color adjustments. I do have Photoshop, but I can usually do the "quick & dirty" in IrfanView in about the time it takes Photoshop to fully launch.

OTOH, a pic of an uke on its side vs. standing up doesn't seem the same as pics with perspective that are obviously at the wrong viewing angle.

The Big Kahuna
05-01-2012, 08:02 PM
With natural light and a satin finish, upright works great. But with gloss, not so much. The Kanilea here is not half as good looking in the pic as it is in real life. Here's vertical versus horizontal.

The horizontal works much better:

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4080/4901309223_e4ff9173ba_z.jpg



All cameras, be they cameraphone, compact or DSLR, tend to misrepresent any object that you photograph. The following is just a 2 minute fettle (old English word) in Photoshop, adjusting brightness, contrast, levels and, finally, sharpening. This may still not look like your instrument, but if I had it in front of me I could adjust the image to more accurately match and therefore showcase the Uke' (I'm not for one second suggesting that anyone should fiddle with an image to make something look better than it is).

There is free software that will allow you to do the same without having to spend hundreds of $$'s on Photoshop and the techniques are easy enough. I can't criticise private sellers for not doing this, but having spent a lot of time looking on Manhattan music shop websites and others, and speaking as someone who both loves all musical instruments and also worked in this industry, I'm frankly rather disappointed at the lack of time and effort put into product photography by stores. Their websites are their shopfronts, and not making the effort is, to me, poor sales practice.

Anyway, it's 7AM, I have a 180lb dog chewing my leg because he wants his breakfast and I've only had 2 coffees, so I apologise for the rant.

Anyway, if anyone wants any pictures "fettling" in an honest way for advertising (on other sites but here, obviously), I'll do it for free.

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jmw
05-02-2012, 01:18 AM
But hey, the Ohana still looked nice! Wasn't that Zebrawood?

Sure was! Want to see a picture? :)

And also, for the record, now that i know they will all upload sideways, I promise to rotate my iPhone photos from now on.

Steedy
05-02-2012, 04:25 AM
Totally off topic, but I just posted a ukulele for trade in the Marketplace (http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?64690-Trade-LU21-TE-tenor-for-smaller-acoustic-electric&p=928825#post928825) in case anyone is interested ...

Great work there, pootsie. It put a smile on my face this morning. :)

pootsie
05-02-2012, 04:34 AM
Great work there, pootsie. It put a smile on my face this morning. :)

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Plainsong
05-02-2012, 09:11 AM
Yes yes, I know how to freaking process photos.I just didn't feel it was worth doing. I'm sorry it wasn't processed to your standards. I'm well aware of the distortions. I prefer getting the natural shot when I can.

All the nerd rage!

The Big Kahuna
05-02-2012, 09:30 AM
http://28.media.tumblr.com/9cyPFQbgCo6ajcbk8lmZebnOo1_500.jpg

Plainsong
05-02-2012, 07:06 PM
It's not a photography forum, and it's not the choice I would have made in editing it.

The Big Kahuna
05-02-2012, 07:56 PM
Whatever, it was an example, as I clearly stated in my post. YOU may know everything there is to know about processing photographs, but there may be others on here who don't, and who might appreciate a few tips on maximising images of their Uke in order to sell it easier. You wouldn't try to sell a car without washing & polishing it first. The point of my post was not "ooh, look at me, aren't I good with Photoshop", something that would hardly make me unique even if it were true, which it isn't. You made the assertion that "With natural light and a satin finish, upright works great. But with gloss, not so much.", all I did was try to show that this isn't necessarily the case.

The only criticism in my post was directed at store websites, NOT private sellers:


I can't criticise private sellers for not doing this