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soulman
08-19-2012, 02:59 AM
I have some abalone shell which was purchased from a shop and was wondering if there are any legal issues in using this as inlay in Australia.

bluesuke
08-19-2012, 04:10 AM
We sent a ukulele to Australia last month with a abalone rosette and had no problem with customs.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
08-19-2012, 06:29 AM
As far as I know the only abalone with restrictions on it is the white stuff from South Africa.

Rick Turner
08-19-2012, 08:36 AM
Yeah...this week...

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
08-19-2012, 08:41 AM
Yeah...this week...

Exactly.....

Rick Turner
08-19-2012, 09:40 AM
I have been requested specifically NOT to include any shell products on ukes I'm sending to a new dealer in Singapore.

This isn't even about what is exactly legal and what isn't. It's about how bureaucrats can make life miserable. That abalone shell? Can you prove it isn't illegal South African? The Lacey act and CITES 3 is all about guilty until proven innocent. And it may be that to prove yourself innocent, your instrument has to be destroyed to test all the maybe illegal bits of wood and shell that went into it. That's how it really works... "Caveat Faber" Craftsman beware...

Allen
08-19-2012, 10:03 AM
None whatsoever if the instrument is in Australia.

You're milage may vary if you try and send it elsewhere, but to date I've not had any issues. Saying that, I always inform clients that if they want abalone inlay they may have issues that I will not be held responsible for, as they were informed.

Pete Howlett
08-19-2012, 11:02 AM
Martin guitars won't put an shell on export guitars. It also looks like ebony is the next species in the CITES sight lines :( Here in temperate UK it is going to be very difficult soon (next 10 years) to use any exotic materials on instruments and sadly we have few indigenous substitutes...

Timbuck
08-19-2012, 11:16 AM
Martin guitars won't put an shell on export guitars. It also looks like ebony is the next species in the CITES sight lines :( Here in temperate UK it is going to be very difficult soon (next 10 years) to use any exotic materials on instruments and sadly we have few indigenous substitutes...
Plenty of plastic stuff Pete..I use it for marker dot's and rosettes.. so did Martin in the 20's onwards "celuloid" same stuff ping pong balls were made of :D
Some of the pearl type plastic looks just like the real thing under a few coats of laquer.:cool:

Rick Turner
08-19-2012, 12:56 PM
And Martin high pressure laminate guitars look just like wood!

Pete Howlett
08-19-2012, 01:36 PM
I love perloid - customers prefer pearl...

Beau Hannam Ukuleles
08-19-2012, 01:53 PM
And Martin high pressure laminate guitars look just like wood!

hahaha.....

soulman
08-20-2012, 02:27 AM
Thanks all for your comments. looks like i`ve got an abalone inlay comming up.

thistle3585
08-20-2012, 03:44 AM
South Africa removed abalone from the Cites Appendix III treaty in June of 2010.