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electrauke
12-04-2012, 07:26 PM
I so so so so wanted to go to NAMM but read that it is not open to the public:( How could they do this to people, I mean the most awesome event in the world just closed?! Then I read that if you know someone that is registered with NAMM they can get you passes. It may be a bad thing to ask but here it goes, can....anyone....get....tickets...for.....me. There it is. I mean ALDRINE is going to be there. He is my favorite player of all time. I DREAM about getting my uke signed by him. I hope I have not broken UU edicate rules by asking this, but thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
11 year old uke loving kid Andre Brilliant

oldetymey
12-04-2012, 11:49 PM
Go to your local music shops, even guitar center if you have one, and beg a visitor pass off someone. I doubt everyone is using all their visitor passes. I think asking here is a good idea as well. Good luck to you, I hope you get in! Someone hook the kid up.....

cahaya
12-05-2012, 01:55 AM
Just found out NAMM stands for National Association of Music Merchants. Too bad for us the general public :(

ukeeku
12-05-2012, 03:10 AM
Last year they did a public day on Sunday, but I think that was taken out. Sunday sucked with all the people there.

zac987
12-05-2012, 03:27 AM
To be fair, like cahaya said, it is intended for Merchants. I think we should be content with the coverage we get of the various uke companies.

oldetymey
12-05-2012, 03:42 AM
Just found out NAMM stands for National Association of Music Merchants. Too bad for us the general public :(


If im not mistaken arent retailers issued visitor or guest passes?
Im quite sure there are extras to be had. I dont see the harm of a kid trying to score
A pass to go. Why dump on his enthusiasm?

oldetymey
12-05-2012, 03:46 AM
Last year they did a public day on Sunday, but I think that was taken out. Sunday sucked with all the people there.
Ha yeah. Sucks that merchants would have to spend a day with the folks shelling out cash for their products
:D

hoosierhiver
12-05-2012, 04:22 AM
If im not mistaken arent retailers issued visitor or guest passes?
Im quite sure there are extras to be had. I dont see the harm of a kid trying to score
A pass to go. Why dump on his enthusiasm?

NAMM members get 4 passes for the show that are supposed to be for employees only.

Harold O.
12-05-2012, 04:56 AM
Most large trade shows are designed for manufacturers to to show off the product line to the people who will buy them. In the manufacturing world, their primary customer is retailers—meaning stores, be they chains or independents.

The stores' customers are you and me and little Joe down the street.

NAMM is already crowded. If the general public were allowed inside, it would become a swap meet and lose it's value to the market as we know it. The best way for makers to get their product out there is to let the stores do it. The stores (in theory) know what will sell in their area and place orders accordingly. Then the manufacturers work to fill the orders. Makers make. Stores sell.

Aside from the wow factor (which is huge), there is nothing to buy at most trade shows. Orders are placed, products demonstrated, but not much outright selling. It's a business thing, nothing personal.

ukeeku
12-05-2012, 05:02 AM
Ha yeah. Sucks that merchants would have to spend a day with the folks shelling out cash for their products
:D

I know you know what i meant, but to clarify.
It sucked having all the peasants there. they are dirty dirty things.





Actually, when the public was able to come in, it was just more crowded. just gets hot and hard to talk with vendors.

NatalieS
12-05-2012, 05:46 AM
Most large trade shows are designed for manufacturers to to show off the product line to the people who will buy them. In the manufacturing world, their primary customer is retailers—meaning stores, be they chains or independents.

The stores' customers are you and me and little Joe down the street.

NAMM is already crowded. If the general public were allowed inside, it would become a swap meet and lose it's value to the market as we know it. The best way for makers to get their product out there is to let the stores do it. The stores (in theory) know what will sell in their area and place orders accordingly. Then the manufacturers work to fill the orders. Makers make. Stores sell.

Aside from the wow factor (which is huge), there is nothing to buy at most trade shows. Orders are placed, products demonstrated, but not much outright selling. It's a business thing, nothing personal.

Exactly true. I wish I could go to NAMM too; however, I've attended trade shows for my line of work (mainly pet industry) and they are very busy as it is. The vendors' mission is unfortunately not to cater to the fanboys and girls of particular items, but rather to gain potential retailers for their products. It's all about business. As much as I would love to attend NAMM as a fan of music and instrument makers, it's just not what those shows are designed for.

electrauke
12-05-2012, 06:17 AM
But if I can get in I will :)

Freeda
12-05-2012, 06:29 AM
It's a trade show. If you are not in the industry, why would you even want to go?

electrauke
12-05-2012, 06:54 AM
Because it is AWESOME! Everything music is there, who would not want to go.

joeybug
12-05-2012, 11:18 AM
Because it is AWESOME! Everything music is there, who would not want to go.

If you really want to go, get a job with an Ukulele music shop and use their employee passes. It may not be for a few years as you're only 11, but that's the only way I see you getting to NAMM. Someone taking you would be like me taking my god daughter to a writer's convention because she wanted to meet her favourite author. It's not what it's for and it could be bad for business, they are there to forge connections and make business deals, not taking someone to see their favourite player.

I'd love to meet Aldrine, but if I was going to go anywhere, it would be somewhere like UWC - Ukulele World Congress which is FOR players to meet OTHER players, NOT business, personal. There are other big Uke fests around that would be more appropriate and a place for you to try and meet Aldrine.

I hope this doesn't come across as harsh, just pointing out a few things....

Joey :music:

electrauke
12-05-2012, 12:02 PM
Guess you are right. But meeting Aldrine is not the only reason I would like to go. Just seeing all the music stuff is amazing. I still will go if I get the chance, I will eventually PREVAIL:)

electrauke
12-05-2012, 12:07 PM
Wow, this is great advice, I am pretty savvy with websites and stuff like that. In fact that would be AWESOME to start a website like that. I think I will do like electramusic.com so I am not limited to ukes. Maybe I can get someone who is good in Drums to do drum reviews and someone who is good in guitar to do guitar reviews. Thank you very much.



It is a shame that all the stuff about NAMM being for wholesalers and retailers and being just work is true, especially when we see all the reports that make it into the media that make the truth seem to be wrong. The reporting of NAMM never seems to be about deals or work, it always seems to make out that NAMM is some form of music nirvana. Most young people could be forgiven for thinking NAMM is a big rock festival after reading the media reports.
A person who is 11 now will be in the buying generation in a few years, do some social networking and twittering and get a lot of 11 year olds together on line and start being an influence on buying trends and the NAMM organisers may send you and invitation and run around after you all day at the show if they think your influence will sell products. Expect to be given a few samples and meet some great music people when you get there . Learn how to do an influential review on anything musical and you will be on a winner. An influential review will get punters to buy the product, so you put down what ever is necessary to move product in the review, or if the seller is not nice to you, you adjust the review accordingly. Think about setting up the influential electraukedotcom website for music stuff, and make the current trend instead of following the trend. It could go through the set up phase while your parents are still paying the bills, and start to hit some paydirt as you reach an age where you need to pay your own way. One of the fringe benefits would be invitations to visit NAMM and do some selected and influential reviews. Pick up a few units in music stuff at school and become some form of expert in an area you enjoy to compliment your website with some useful information.

oldetymey
12-05-2012, 12:31 PM
I know you know what i meant, but to clarify.
It sucked having all the peasants there. they are dirty dirty things.





Actually, when the public was able to come in, it was just more crowded. just gets hot and hard to talk with vendors.


was just having a little fun with ya....no harm intended

oldetymey
12-05-2012, 12:38 PM
It is a shame that all the stuff about NAMM being for wholesalers and retailers and being just work is true, especially when we see all the reports that make it into the media that make the truth seem to be wrong. The reporting of NAMM never seems to be about deals or work, it always seems to make out that NAMM is some form of music nirvana. Most young people could be forgiven for thinking NAMM is a big rock festival after reading the media reports.
A person who is 11 now will be in the buying generation in a few years, do some social networking and twittering and get a lot of 11 year olds together on line and start being an influence on buying trends and the NAMM organisers may send you and invitation and run around after you all day at the show if they think your influence will sell products. Expect to be given a few samples and meet some great music people when you get there . Learn how to do an influential review on anything musical and you will be on a winner. An influential review will get punters to buy the product, so you put down what ever is necessary to move product in the review, or if the seller is not nice to you, you adjust the review accordingly. Think about setting up the influential electraukedotcom website for music stuff, and make the current trend instead of following the trend. It could go through the set up phase while your parents are still paying the bills, and start to hit some paydirt as you reach an age where you need to pay your own way. One of the fringe benefits would be invitations to visit NAMM and do some selected and influential reviews. Pick up a few units in music stuff at school and become some form of expert in an area you enjoy to compliment your website with some useful information.


This is amazingly good advice, why would he want to go? Who cares?....you got an 11 year old kid thats excited about the uke, and about music. Thats probably pretty rare these days.
Hes got a good resource here with the people on this site. I would think a tenacious little dude like this is something youd all want to encourage.
Maybe it wont be as fun as he thinks, but who knows maybe it will, and he'll become a great uke builder someday, or a famous player. Obviously alot of you here never tried to sneak backstage at a concert....

PedalFreak
12-05-2012, 12:51 PM
NAMM members get 4 passes for the show that are supposed to be for employees only.

We get more than that :)


Actually, when the public was able to come in, it was just more crowded. just gets hot and hard to talk with vendors.

And even harder to hear in the booths. On the last open to the public day I was at I left within an hour.

PedalFreak
12-05-2012, 12:52 PM
I so so so so wanted to go to NAMM but read that it is not open to the public:( How could they do this to people, I mean the most awesome event in the world just closed?! Then I read that if you know someone that is registered with NAMM they can get you passes. It may be a bad thing to ask but here it goes, can....anyone....get....tickets...for.....me. There it is. I mean ALDRINE is going to be there. He is my favorite player of all time. I DREAM about getting my uke signed by him. I hope I have not broken UU edicate rules by asking this, but thank you for your time.

Sincerely,
11 year old uke loving kid Andre Brilliant

Do you have a way to get to Anaheim, CA?

electrauke
12-05-2012, 01:05 PM
Oh yeah I live really close, if I get passes my parents will take me. In fact the 23 is my birthday.

itsme
12-05-2012, 01:30 PM
The vendors' mission is unfortunately not to cater to the fanboys and girls of particular items, but rather to gain potential retailers for their products. It's all about business. As much as I would love to attend NAMM as a fan of music and instrument makers, it's just not what those shows are designed for.
Spot on. :)

And no offense, electrauke, but you're 11.

From NAMM's site (http://www.namm.org/policies/badge-allotment-policy-statement):


- Only authorized NAMM Members may register children under the age of 18 to attend the NAMM Show.
- Guests of NAMM Members (yellow badges) can’t bring children that are under the age of 18.
Because of your age, you couldn't get in on a guest pass even if someone gave you one. Good luck finding a NAMM Member willing to register someone else's 11-year-old child. They'd probably have to agree to supervise you while on the premises and I just don't see that happening.

There's another thread about NAMM (www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?73629-Winter-NAMM-2013) where Ken Middleton is talking about having an open jam on the grassy knoll Saturday at 6pm. That might actually be doable for you. IIRC, last year a lot of really good players showed up. Who knows, maybe even Aldrine will be there. :p

electrauke
12-05-2012, 01:54 PM
Spot on. :)

And no offense, electrauke, but you're 11.

From NAMM's site (http://www.namm.org/policies/badge-allotment-policy-statement):


Because of your age, you couldn't get in on a guest pass even if someone gave you one. Good luck finding a NAMM Member willing to register someone else's 11-year-old child. They'd probably have to agree to supervise you while on the premises and I just don't see that happening.

There's another thread about NAMM (www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?73629-Winter-NAMM-2013) where Ken Middleton is talking about having an open jam on the grassy knoll Saturday at 6pm. That might actually be doable for you. IIRC, last year a lot of really good players showed up. Who knows, maybe even Aldrine will be there. :p


Oh well, that is ok. Too bad though:(

J'Ukebox
12-05-2012, 03:48 PM
U live in So Cal.... there are probably at least hundreds of retailers, and a fair number of vendors in your area...... Maybe U even know some of them personally, & know what they are about... figure out what YOU have to offer THEM , that would make it worth their time to offer U a pass.... what can U do for them, in advance of the show and/or at the show that would make U more or less indispensable to them? Seriously, even though U are not likely yet part of the workforce, and don't have that mentality yet, there just MAY be something that U, personally, could offer them, that they could not find in a thousand other 11 year olds, or even a thousand other teenagers, that U could swap for the opportunity to be in on the NAMM experience, vs. being on the payroll. Think of yourself as the indispensable employee, who is swapping your efforts, not for money, (this time around), but for the NAMM tradeshow experience. HIghly efective way to begin a career! AND, if it really IS mostly about meeting Aldrine, get thee to a Uke fest! Seems he was recently in San Diego, he must do a number of shows that are in your part of the country, seeing as how I've seen him twice, in as small a city as Eugene, OR!! SoCal should be a piece o' cake! I know that U have what it takes to figure this out! All the best.....

electrauke
12-05-2012, 04:18 PM
U live in So Cal.... there are probably at least hundreds of retailers, and a fair number of vendors in your area...... Maybe U even know some of them personally, & know what they are about... figure out what YOU have to offer THEM , that would make it worth their time to offer U a pass.... what can U do for them, in advance of the show and/or at the show that would make U more or less indispensable to them? Seriously, even though U are not likely yet part of the workforce, and don't have that mentality yet, there just MAY be something that U, personally, could offer them, that they could not find in a thousand other 11 year olds, or even a thousand other teenagers, that U could swap for the opportunity to be in on the NAMM experience, vs. being on the payroll. Think of yourself as the indispensable employee, who is swapping your efforts, not for money, (this time around), but for the NAMM tradeshow experience. HIghly efective way to begin a career! AND, if it really IS mostly about meeting Aldrine, get thee to a Uke fest! Seems he was recently in San Diego, he must do a number of shows that are in your part of the country, seeing as how I've seen him twice, in as small a city as Eugene, OR!! SoCal should be a piece o' cake! I know that U have what it takes to figure this out! All the best.....

I kinda made it sound like it was all about meeting Aldrine, it is not. It is about seeing the music stuuf. It is so COOL. And I do not live in Southern CA. I live a couple hours from the area.

ukeeku
12-05-2012, 04:37 PM
Who knows, maybe even Aldrine will be there. :p

He runs the jam for the most part. also many of the other players come. I know Seeso, colin, and Aaron from UU will be there too

J'Ukebox
12-05-2012, 04:49 PM
OK, Not to be cocky, but just to be clear... a couple of hours from Anaheim? I know U are only 11, but do U have the slightest idea how advantageous that is, in terms of population & demographics, compared to most of this country and the world? U are in a highly advantageous position to MAKE this happen for U, rather than expecting it to be handed to U on a silver platter, (because, after all, what exactly is in it for the one who is doing the handing??) My advice remains the same: 1. Make yourself indispensable to someone... 2.I know that U have what it takes to figure this out! All the best..... or 3. Just let the opportunity pass U by!

electrauke
12-05-2012, 04:56 PM
OK, Not to be cocky, but just to be clear... a couple of hours from Anaheim? I know U are only 11, but do U have the slightest idea how advantageous that is, in terms of population & demographics, compared to most of this country and the world? U are in a highly advantageous position to MAKE this happen for U, rather than expecting it to be handed to U on a silver platter, (because, after all, what exactly is in it for the one who is doing the handing??) My advice remains the same: 1. Make yourself indispensable to someone... 2.I know that U have what it takes to figure this out! All the best..... or 3. Just let the opportunity pass U by!

Oh, of course I think your idea was a great one, I was not saying anything about that. I do not expect anything handed to my on a silver platter I am going to find a store in the next week to offer my work to. In fact I love working. I am even angry that I have to be 15 and 1/2 to be able to get a job:)

Lori
12-05-2012, 05:30 PM
The members of NAMM (yes they pay dues that cost quite a bit of $$), and the vendors in the booths have invested large sums of money to be at the show. It is only natural that they limit the number of people at the show. If it is too crowded, it is hard to look at the merchandise. In past years UU has done an excellent job of covering the show for us. In a way, you can actually see more from their videos, especially if they play into an amp or microphone. You really can't hear any instrument very well in the trade show environment. For the future, think about making yourself qualify for a press pass, or see if there are any opportunities for volunteering in exchange for a pass. I know that some shows have done that in the past (like Comic-Con).

–Lori

electrauke
12-06-2012, 07:33 AM
Thanks everyone for the advice:)

hoosierhiver
12-06-2012, 08:15 AM
[QUOTE=PedalFreak;1117162]We get more than that :)



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I think exhibitors get more, than non-exhibitors