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blue_knight_usa
01-04-2013, 12:27 PM
Hi All, after several attempts to get the new Aquila Red low G's on my tenors I have come to the conclusion there is definitely something wrong with these strings. They break every time. I stopped using Aquila's all together a few years ago due to the sound which is not to my liking as I like a more richer and fuller sounding uke and not one that is extremely bright which the Aquila's tend to provide.

I have changed probably 50 sets of strings in the past two years trying new strings on a regular basis and never had strings break in the middle of the fret board. These could not even get to a G when they broke. I tried to slowly tighten the tension over several hours on the second attempt and over 1 day on the third attempt. These are the most elastic strings I have ever seen which I think is one of the problems as they can't seem to handle the appropriate tension for a low G note.

I am extremely dissapointed and it appears the material is not appropriate for the tension required on the G strings. I have seen other posts with people complaining about breakage and clearly it's not a limited situation. I am not sure why but am contacting Aquila to complain about this. This should not happen.

I definitely would not recommend these strings at this point until they come up with a new formula that does not break. The fact the strings are breaking in the middle of the fret board (not by the nut or down by the saddle) indicates a weakness in the material.

Just my .02 but for those of you experiencing the same thing, I would stick to a solid low G unwound such as the Fremonts, Savarez, Living Waters or Ph.D's which are all excellent. The Living Waters are a bit less tension but work fine. It was a good experiment but frustrating to the point that I'm definitely done with the Aquila brand for now. The regular strings do work fine, but the Low G is a failure in my opinion.

AndrewKuker
01-04-2013, 12:59 PM
Hi All, after several attempts to get the new Aquila Red low G's on my tenors I have come to the conclusion there is definitely something wrong with these strings. They break every time. I stopped using Aquila's all together a few years ago due to the sound which is not to my liking as I like a more richer and fuller sounding uke and not one that is extremely bright which the Aquila's tend to provide.

I have changed probably 50 sets of strings in the past two years trying new strings on a regular basis and never had strings break in the middle of the fret board. These could not even get to a G when they broke. I tried to slowly tighten the tension over several hours on the second attempt and over 1 day on the third attempt. These are the most elastic strings I have ever seen which I think is one of the problems as they can't seem to handle the appropriate tension for a low G note.

I am extremely dissapointed and it appears the material is not appropriate for the tension required on the G strings. I have seen other posts with people complaining about breakage and clearly it's not a limited situation. I am not sure why but am contacting Aquila to complain about this. This should not happen.

I definitely would not recommend these strings at this point until they come up with a new formula that does not break. The fact the strings are breaking in the middle of the fret board (not by the nut or down by the saddle) indicates a weakness in the material.

Just my .02 but for those of you experiencing the same thing, I would stick to a solid low G unwound such as the Fremonts, Savarez, Living Waters or Ph.D's which are all excellent. The Living Waters are a bit less tension but work fine. It was a good experiment but frustrating to the point that I'm definitely done with the Aquila brand for now. The regular strings do work fine, but the Low G is a failure in my opinion.

I wonder if you even tried the newer versions. Significantly better in every way and not rubber bandy like the ones you keep getting. Totally different so don't advertise your dislike too strong, you just might like them in the end..or not

blue_knight_usa
01-04-2013, 01:05 PM
I just got these several weeks ago. They are the newest ones. I bought them from two separate distributors I have bought from for years so I think these are the newest. They shouldn't break. Again just my opinion there is something wrong with the formula in these strings for sure. Three strings, all breaking the same way indicates consistent failures with this particular string. If there are new ones then I'll make sure I get them directly from Aquila as I am hoping they replace the broken ones that were brand new out of a factory sealed package.


I wonder if you even tried the newer versions. Significantly better in every way and not rubber bandy like the ones you keep getting. Totally different so don't advertise your dislike too strong, you just might like them in the end..or not

AndrewKuker
01-04-2013, 01:20 PM
I just got these several weeks ago. They are the newest ones. I bought them from two separate distributors I have bought from for years so I think these are the newest. They shouldn't break. Again just my opinion there is something wrong with the formula in these strings for sure. Three strings, all breaking the same way indicates consistent failures with this particular string. If there are new ones then I'll make sure I get them directly from Aquila as I am hoping they replace the broken ones that were brand new out of a factory sealed package.

hmm, sold hundreds of the newer ones without complaints yet. perhaps people are just trying to be nice. Never broke on the ones in store as well so it doesn't seem to be happening too often. I bet they save the good ones for us :)

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
01-04-2013, 01:24 PM
Yes, the new ones look like the old reds but they are a vast improvement. I still prefer a wound low G though.......

stevepetergal
01-04-2013, 02:02 PM
I understand your frustration and will take into account your experience. It seems from what I've read about these strings that they are hit and miss. I had one of the very first generation for testing purposes, when Mimmo first had them. I, like you, am not a fan of the Nylgut strings for their sound (too harsh for me), but the sample red low G impressed me. It sounded very nice for a non-wound low G, and it sounded good for at least a couple of months. But, some seem to break under normal tension, even after the reformulation. Bad batches? Who knows. These strings are still quite new and probably still a work in progress. Perhaps you'll feel a little less upset after you contact Aquila. I'll bet they make appropriate reparations. Aquila is a most reputable company with mostly very good products (personal tastes notwithstanding).

lancemanion
01-04-2013, 03:00 PM
I also had problems with the original reds, however, since I got the new ones from HMS in Hawaii I havn't had any problems and I really enjoy the Red unwound low G.

blue_knight_usa
01-04-2013, 05:03 PM
I will work with Aquila and certainly update this thread with any new results. I sent them an email and am awaiting a reply.


I also had problems with the original reds, however, since I got the new ones from HMS in Hawaii I havn't had any problems and I really enjoy the Red unwound low G.

blue_knight_usa
01-04-2013, 05:17 PM
Yes, the new ones look like the old reds but they are a vast improvement. I still prefer a wound low G though.......

I too am preferring a wound low G. Which low G's do you use Chuck?
Tnx

Kanaka916
01-04-2013, 07:59 PM
I've used the Reds a little over a year and have had no probs with em. I still prefer wounds tho.

kissing
01-05-2013, 05:16 AM
Maybe I've been extremely lucky.
I have a concert uke tuned with the original Aquila red (the rubber-band like one), and it has not broken on me.
I've had it on for many months now.

And in terms of feel and sound, I am finding it really good. Definitely prefer it over droning wound strings.

The other strings on the uke are Fremonts, hard tension. The Aquila red blends in well with these strings in my opinion.
Not a fan of Aquila nylgut..

hawaii 50
01-05-2013, 10:54 AM
I too am preferring a wound low G. Which low G's do you use Chuck?
Tnx


I like wound LowG strings too..but not all of my ukes have a wound LowG

on my Compass Rose i use Savarez 520R classical strings..the top 4 strings..and use the wound D string for LowG..Rick Turner likes these..

Hey Blue Knight i live in Belmont..

strumsilly
01-05-2013, 11:07 AM
hmm, sold hundreds of the newer ones without complaints yet. perhaps people are just trying to be nice. Never broke on the ones in store as well so it doesn't seem to be happening too often. I bet they save the good ones for us :)
I've finally put one of the 2 I bought from you on, and I got to say I like it better than the wound that came with my t2 set. it's been on for 2 days now, and is still stretching a little, but it sounds and feels great.the package did have a date stamp [BE 9/20/12]SO FAR SO GOOD, i'LL REPORT IN IF IT BREAKS.
So far, I'd recommend them.

blue_knight_usa
01-05-2013, 12:53 PM
FOLLOW UP TO MY EMAIL TO AQUILA: I received a response from the U.S. distributor last night who was extremely nice (Curtis) and was going to send me new strings, however I received a respond today from Mimmo Peruffo at Aquila directly after I emailed them and they are going to send out new strings on Monday. This will guarantee I have the new formula strings. The distributor said it's been a very trying time due to the first sets that did break a lot and the new sets come in packs sometimes with a white dot and some without. Mine had the white dot. I'll keep you posted once I get the new strings. The distributor I spoke with supplies the larger string stores and said the new batch he received has not broken on his Ohana, so I'm hopefully optimisitic I had 3 of the old formula and the new ones won't break. I'll post my results once I get the new set.


I've finally put one of the 2 I bought from you on, and I got to say I like it better than the wound that came with my t2 set. it's been on for 2 days now, and is still stretching a little, but it sounds and feels great.the package did have a date stamp [BE 9/20/12]SO FAR SO GOOD, i'LL REPORT IN IF IT BREAKS.
So far, I'd recommend them.

stevepetergal
01-05-2013, 03:54 PM
I see you have a Mya-Moe. I buy my strings from Char and Gordon. Their string advice is always excellent. I use the wound low G strings they recommend.

Paul December
01-05-2013, 05:45 PM
FOLLOW UP TO MY EMAIL TO AQUILA: I received a response from the U.S. distributor last night who was extremely nice (Curtis) and was going to send me new strings, however I received a respond today from Mimmo Peruffo at Aquila directly after I emailed them and they are going to send out new strings on Monday. This will guarantee I have the new formula strings. The distributor said it's been a very trying time due to the first sets that did break a lot and the new sets come in packs sometimes with a white dot and some without. Mine had the white dot. I'll keep you posted once I get the new strings. The distributor I spoke with supplies the larger string stores and said the new batch he received has not broken on his Ohana, so I'm hopefully optimisitic I had 3 of the old formula and the new ones won't break. I'll post my results once I get the new set.

Hmmm, I should Aquila know I've broken about a hundred sets of the red.
...On a related note, I will be selling new reds in a couple weeks :D

mm stan
01-05-2013, 06:10 PM
On some ukes I really do prefer Aquilas..they make the uke sound so great.... some others not, like any other strings...you gotta match them to the uke
I really do like the low G that Mimmo sent me too and they have never broken and sound great to me...no issues whatsoever
could you have been getting the old ones and the distributor made a mistake....anyways you are getting the real thing from Mimmo now
he is a great guy..... you really should have contacted him first and not aired it publically on the forums until you knew for sure..well that is just my thought...

RedViolin
01-05-2013, 08:36 PM
http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?74967-Red-Aquila-Low-G-Strings-for-Tenor-Ukes

The aquila red low g broke on me too! I'm actually going to try them again to see if the new formula will make a difference. If they snap again....

hawaii 50
01-06-2013, 09:24 AM
http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?74967-Red-Aquila-Low-G-Strings-for-Tenor-Ukes

The aquila red low g broke on me too! I'm actually going to try them again to see if the new formula will make a difference. If they snap again....


good luck! hope they work out for you

hawaii 50
01-06-2013, 09:26 AM
On some ukes I really do prefer Aquilas..they make the uke sound so great.... some others not, like any other strings...you gotta match them to the uke
I really do like the low G that Mimmo sent me too and they have never broken and sound great to me...no issues whatsoever
could you have been getting the old ones and the distributor made a mistake....anyways you are getting the real thing from Mimmo now
he is a great guy..... you really should have contacted him first and not aired it publically on the forums until you knew for sure..well that is just my thought...


Right On Stan..

uke42
01-06-2013, 11:20 AM
http://www.ukuleleunderground.com/forum/showthread.php?74967-Red-Aquila-Low-G-Strings-for-Tenor-Ukes

The aquila red low g broke on me too! I'm actually going to try them again to see if the new formula will make a difference. If they snap again....

The Aquila red that I had put on one of my Kanile'a tenor finally broke after 6 months. It snapped on it's own while my uke was in it's case. I probably should have changed it out sooner but I wanted to see how long it would last. As soon as I find one of the newer formulated reds I'll swap out the wired low G string that replaced the old red. I'm trying out the D'Addario Nyltech strings for the first time and kind of like them better than the Aquilas. They seem to be a little brighter. I'll see if I still like them after a few weeks.

blue_knight_usa
01-06-2013, 06:02 PM
Hi Steve,

I too have a Mya-Moe and Char said they used Worths. Not sure if that is what they are still using, have not asked her in a while, do you know? Mine did come with a wound low G and I changed the strings and kept the low wound as I have a resonator and the low G wound works extremely well for my finger style.


I see you have a Mya-Moe. I buy my strings from Char and Gordon. Their string advice is always excellent. I use the wound low G strings they recommend.

mimmo
01-07-2013, 08:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGH1d8IP_Us

How to install them properly...
Mimmo

Sporin
01-07-2013, 12:52 PM
I see you've already talked to Aquila and I'm sure they will take care of you, but it definitley sounds like you had/have the old formulation.

The stretchiness of the New vs Old is night and day. The old ones acted like rubber bands in your hands, the new ones act much closer to the regular white nylagut Aquilas.

I had the same issues as you with the old ones but the new ones, which I have on multiple ukes now, have been really fantastic. No excessive stretching, settle into tune quickly, hold tune well, and best of all, no breaking.

sumppump
01-08-2013, 03:31 AM
I put Aquila Reds on my Ovation tenor about 6 months ago. It broke all that I put on it. I also put one on the Applause tenor. Didn't play the Applause much but the old type string is still on it. String is also on my daughter' s Koaloha tenor. I ordered new ones from HMS went through three of them before I realized they were only breaking on the Ovation. Got a file and some 600 grit sandpaper and worked on the NUT. I then put a new one on that was about a month ago and it has not broken. I believe the nut was my only problem. As far as the sound goes I really like it on the Ovation. It is played almost daily and soooo far no more broken string.

blue_knight_usa
01-11-2013, 09:31 PM
FOLLOW UP: I received the new strings from Mimmo in Italy (Thank you Mimmo) this week. I went to string up the first one and it broke at the peg so I may have been pulling it a little too taught, but have never had a fluorocarbon string break like that and I realized the material may just be more delicate, so I strung up a second string and left it looser than I usually do while holding it taught at the tuning peg and I was able to string it up fine. It has been on there for two days now and plays just fine. I install my strings and stretch them just like the video Mimmo posted, so I stretched the strings and they tuned up fairly quickly. They do stay in tune well after being stretched. I usually spend about 20 minutes stretching my strings and then after the first few days, they stay in tune for quite a while (days).

The surface is rougher than a fluorocarbon string and I get a little more string noise on the string. Compared to the other low G's that I use (Fremont Low G, Savarez Low G and Living Waters Low G), I would say the sound is a bit less resonant and the sustain is slightly less but it does work fine as a low G. I'd say to my ears it has a bit more bass to it on the uke I have it on and it's not as bright as the other low G's which might be what some folks are looking for. I prefer a bit brighter low G so that it's not too drone sounding, which is merely my personal preference.

The stretchy properties of the strings in this batch are definitely less stretchy than the previous strings. I'm going to leave it on my Gretsch tenor where I installed it and play it for a while.

Thanks again to Mimmo for quickly replacing the strings.