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mm stan
02-07-2013, 03:50 PM
Last Time I had a ukulele delivered to my house...the mailman called
to my window...I said yes.. he said, I got a delivery....I said okay
hold on a moment...he said , you want to refuse delivery....I said
What??
Today I look on my Track and confirm and it said left a note...
I looked in my mailbox and there was no note and he I did not hear him call me... Last time I told him to ring the door bell, but I guess
he forgot again....

What should I do, all the neighborhood hates him and I was the only
nice guy who backed him up, now I am having second thoughts...
Especially when it comes to my ukes..... PO Stan:(
PS just venting my disappointment..... not directed to all mail carriers, but just this one...:(

BlackBearUkes
02-07-2013, 04:13 PM
You have to tell their supervisor, they hate their supervisors.

connor013
02-07-2013, 04:32 PM
You have to tell their supervisor, they hate their supervisors.

Makes sense; I'm not super-fond of my supervisors, either.

Other end of the spectrum: we had ok mail service -- kind of hit or miss -- until my mailman saw me playing the uke on the porch. We chatted, he strummed a few chords, and now he owns his own uke.

My mail service is excellent.

Good luck, Stan. Win him over with some good tunes.

Plainsong
02-07-2013, 04:36 PM
And if he's bad on his entire route, then go to his supervisor with signatures to that effect, if you really want to turn the heat up on him. It sounds like he'd rather not have the job, so I don't see why he should.

Tigeralum2001
02-07-2013, 04:39 PM
Ask Len what to do... he is an expert in the field.

mm stan
02-07-2013, 04:42 PM
And if he's bad on his entire route, then go to his supervisor with signatures to that effect, if you really want to turn the heat up on him. It sounds like he'd rather not have the job, so I don't see why he should.

my neighbors have complained for over a year and they say his relative is his boss.. they get no where...they even had a supervisor follow him around because of complaints and he is
still here...before him, we had all great carriers to this route....

southcoastukes
02-07-2013, 04:50 PM
We have problems with a lot of our deliveries. I've had ukes actually left in the street, on the side of the street, in the heat of a Louisiana summer, and had some rained on (not hard).

My dog Boo does a great imitation of "the hellhound who will rip you to shreds". In spite of how he acts, he wouldn't harm a fly (well, OK, he does eat them sometimes, but he wouldn't harm a human!). There's an electric fence that keeps him off the sidewalk, so there's a clear path to the porch. The delivery folks all know this, but some of them still can't get past the fiend-dog snarling at them. I guess I understand.

So - all the ukulele deliveries go to a Post Office Box. They have new services now at some Post Offices. Certain boxes will accept FedEx & UPS deliveries, and you get an e-mail notification when your ukulele/package arrives. Plus it's one less truck, less handling, less heat, cold, etc.

bbqribs
02-07-2013, 05:29 PM
Sorry to hear about your difficulties. Use the address of a friend who has a better carrier??

coolkayaker1
02-07-2013, 05:33 PM
maybe sic dirk"s dog on him?

Subdude
02-07-2013, 06:09 PM
Stan,

Move on up here to Mililani! I need a fellow uker around here! Lol !

Plainsong
02-07-2013, 08:10 PM
And people don't like getting called on their bs. If you just flat out ask him why he's so terrible, he may not have a good answer. Insulting you probably wouldn't be the smartest thing to do, but if that's the best he has, then you know he has no real answer. You could always try logging his terribleness in a notebook, and sending the notebook to the postmaster general, with a copy to the supervisor.

Or maybe he'll give you an honest answer and you can talk about it. :)

mm stan
02-07-2013, 08:17 PM
I am in a wheelchair and dont drive so PO box is not a good idea... did I say I did not get one of my tax 1099 forms yet...I called the bank and they are mailing me another...sheesh

mm stan
02-07-2013, 08:22 PM
Stan,

Move on up here to Mililani! I need a fellow uker around here! Lol !

I was up that side a week ago...had to go to my cousins burial ...in mililani Cemetary...old days we used to ride dirt bike up the mountains and trails before the prison and cemetary.....there
even was some sort of real old barraks up there and a shooting range I remember....

Plainsong
02-07-2013, 08:28 PM
Or, you could invite my parents up there, and my mother will take care of him for you. She's one of those that... While she'd hate to just get people fired... Takes care of business no matter who is related to whom. :D

Katz-in-Boots
02-07-2013, 08:40 PM
I have found it useless to complain about public servants like Postmen, they just get angry. Usually if they are messing up the customers they are also messing up their bosses or contract managers (if they are contractors). Karma usually gets them and they get moved on or don't get the contract again at renewal time. Be nice to the fellow, he may have some problems you don't know about, either personal or with bad local management, let the system sort out any problems with his work. Obviously if your mail goes missing or does not arrive you just follow the system and report the problem without mentioning the postman, let the USPS do the investigation and find where the problems are. Here in Australia you just call a hotline and say your mail did not arrive or has not been delivered intact.

In Tasmania here. I did complain about our parcel post person leaving things jammed in a letter box so that all the rain poured in, folding things up, etc. I got a nice response & the postie lifted their game. I have to say I am on great terms with my latest parcel post person though. I'm always so excited to get my parcels, esp ukulele parcels, that it makes their day. And just as with my rampant UAS, I've had various other AS issues. Ebay is my downfall. Though HMS may catch up :D

MountainUker
02-07-2013, 09:03 PM
Well maybe just have him neutered.

TheCraftedCow
02-07-2013, 09:11 PM
There is a supervisor over the supervisor. Escalate to the next level of fire power. Talk on the telephone and ask if a registered letter with delivery confirmation is required. Ask if it can be rectified at his/her level or if it needs to go yet another level higher. Ask if can be resolved within the USPS or is this something which needs to be dealt with at the state/federal government level, and brought to the attention of others through letters to the editor, local talk radio and/or television, or viral u-Tube publicity.

I just went through a simiar situation with a truck delivery system. Soemewhere, there is someone who really cares about the customers...even in the USPO system.

Linho
02-07-2013, 09:49 PM
My dog Boo does a great imitation of "the hellhound who will rip you to shreds".

I would love to see a picture of him, can you please post one? :D

barefootgypsy
02-07-2013, 09:56 PM
There is a supervisor over the supervisor. Escalate to the next level of fire power. Talk on the telephone and ask if a registered letter with delivery confirmation is required. Ask if it can be rectified at his/her level or if it needs to go yet another level higher. Ask if can be resolved within the USPS or is this something which needs to be dealt with at the state/federal government level, and brought to the attention of others through letters to the editor, local talk radio and/or television, or viral u-Tube publicity.

I just went through a simiar situation with a truck delivery system. Soemewhere, there is someone who really cares about the customers...even in the USPO system.

I was thinking along the same lines.......

drbekken
02-07-2013, 11:31 PM
Up here in the near-arctic, the parcels stay in the post office storage room. A notice is sent to our mailbox, then we go to the post office and pick the parcels up. It almost never happens that stuff is jammed into doorways or mailboxes; or left unattended in driveways etc. Works well. So far, I have no reason to fear that instruments or other fragile objects are not handled carefully. Sorry to hear about your worries, Stan.

coolkayaker1
02-07-2013, 11:37 PM
Solution to Stan's issue and lack of response from the government supervisors over this lousy government deliveryman: privatize the US Postal Service.

TG&Y
02-07-2013, 11:51 PM
"What to do with a Bad Mailman?"

Shave his belly with a rusty razor?
Put him the back of the paddy wagon?
Give him a hair of the dog that bit him?
Put him in the scuppers with the hose pipe on him?
Hoist him up to the topsail yardarm?
Throw him in the lock-up 'til he's sober?

Sorry for your postal problems Stan, but I think there might be a song in it.

Pukulele Pete
02-08-2013, 01:47 AM
Solution to Stan's issue and lack of response from the government supervisors over this lousy government deliveryman: privatize the US Postal Service.
I'm pretty sure the post office is privatized , it is separate from the gov, gets no money from them and operates with only the money from postage. Stan I think you have to stop being a nice guy
in this instance and go up the chain of command at the PO and complain , maybe your local representative can help. The squeeky wheel gets the grease.

coolkayaker1
02-08-2013, 01:50 AM
I'm pretty sure the post office is privatized , it is separate from the gov, gets no money from them and operates with only the money from postage. Stan I think you have to stop being a nice guy
in this instance and go up the chain of command at the PO and complain , maybe your local representative can help. The squeeky wheel gets the grease.
Nope. My wife's a US Postmaster. The USPS is heavily subsidized by your tax dollars now, Pete. The old way, as you state, is no more.

That's why smarter private companies, like Fed Ex and UPS, who have lower human resources cost than the USPS ( yes, they get paid less) still want nothing to do with bringing envelope and piece (I.e. junk) mail to households for 47 cents. It's a loser.

The money's in packages, not retail outlets (i.e. post offices) and piece mail. So, the USPS is on the other side of that curve, and we have, in recent years, bailed them out with billions in subsidies.

mm stan
02-08-2013, 04:17 AM
Aloha Gang,
thank you for all your suggestions and comments...I am calmed down of sort this morning...whew...Yes I am sure this mailman has some mental issues, whether it was from the service
is not clear, he is a veteran....Also he is being so careful as they are watching him so closely if he screws up...so it is disrupting him from doing his job efficiently...sad know...I got a heart...sometimes
you gotta bite your tongue ......geez :)

Subdude
02-08-2013, 10:32 AM
I was up that side a week ago...had to go to my cousins burial ...in mililani Cemetary...old days we used to ride dirt bike up the mountains and trails before the prison and cemetary.....there
even was some sort of real old barraks up there and a shooting range I remember....

Cool. Did not know that. I just moved here about a year ago. You know to be closer to HMS. Rhode Island was a bit to far to drive if I needed new strings! Just kidding !!

hawaii 50
02-08-2013, 12:18 PM
Aloha Gang,
thank you for all your suggestions and comments...I am calmed down of sort this morning...whew...Yes I am sure this mailman has some mental issues, whether it was from the service
is not clear, he is a veteran....Also he is being so careful as they are watching him so closely if he screws up...so it is disrupting him from doing his job efficiently...sad know...I got a heart...sometimes
you gotta bite your tongue ......geez :)


you got to talk to his supervisor..
or give him a drink first chance you get..kiss his butt and hope he changes..

if you know your uke coming a certain day..leave a note on your door saying leave on front porch..and make sure he rings the bell

i had 4 of my ukes sent to me and my Mailman was great! he knew they were coming so he watched out for me..
good luck bruddah..you can go UPS but they cost way more!

Tonya
02-08-2013, 01:03 PM
Okay, while I'm not a postmaster, our business is direct marketing and a hunk of that is what you'd call, ahem, "junk mail." We mail hundreds of thousands of pieces of mail annually and interact very closely with USPS every business day; they get lots of our money yet the USPS system is set up with such non-businesslike policies that you'd never guess they think we're a customer.

The good news: There is a complaint procedure you can complete the paperwork for. The bad news: It doesn't typically do much and, when it does anything, it may be two or three months down the road. With current six-day-a-week delivery, you don't have the same mail carrier every day--they only work five days. This explains why you can have great service sometimes and not others (unless you're on a carrier contract route, than you might have the same private contractor/mail carrier *every* delivery day--they're on contract and they work hard to keep 'em). This switching out of carriers makes it tough to develop a great relationship with your "personal mailman." You might even happen to be on a carrier route which is a total "substitution" route, meaning your mail is delivered by the fill-ins for that day so you might not see the same mail carrier again for weeks.

For mail carrier problems, the Delivery Route Supervisor (not just the clerk at the front window of the local office) is the person you want to ask for at your local Post Office to complain. The next level up is the Postmaster for that unit. After that, make friends with your local US Congressperson's field office rep and send the complaint through them (documenting your previous contacts with USPS folks).

Need I say, "good luck"?

mm stan
02-08-2013, 01:46 PM
Aloha Lenny, Tonya and all,
I got it today...I called last night and complained...on my computer it said left a note...when I talked to the post office I told them what note??? and I was home when he came...
he did take it back I found out today, a new mail carrier came(did not do this route before) I hope I did not get him in trouble..geez, that would make me feel bad.... the guy is a nice guy and
I talk to him alot....but he screws up and is forgetful...last time this time I told him to ring my doorbell, and he forgot....geez makes me wonder if he just forgot to deliver it...
maybe he's better doing smaller tasks...I am sure they got something for these type of guys....having him 5 days a week is not good...:(

hawaii 50
02-09-2013, 09:38 AM
Aloha Lenny, Tonya and all,
I got it today...I called last night and complained...on my computer it said left a note...when I talked to the post office I told them what note??? and I was home when he came...
he did take it back I found out today, a new mail carrier came(did not do this route before) I hope I did not get him in trouble..geez, that would make me feel bad.... the guy is a nice guy and
I talk to him alot....but he screws up and is forgetful...last time this time I told him to ring my doorbell, and he forgot....geez makes me wonder if he just forgot to deliver it...
maybe he's better doing smaller tasks...I am sure they got something for these type of guys....having him 5 days a week is not good...:(

Stan just try talk story with the guy..tell him you know a retired Mailman and my advice is to be his buddy,,Lol if that don't work give him some Soda or something just show him your Aloha..maybe it will rub of on him Haha

OldePhart
02-09-2013, 12:37 PM
Just thinking that the title of this thread really needs a song... :)

PeteyHoudini
02-09-2013, 12:41 PM
Just thinking that the title of this thread really needs a song... :)
Or a cover... "Hey please wait a minute, Mr. Postman... there's a ukie... waiting for me!"

oh lala

Petey

Ukuleleblues
02-09-2013, 04:22 PM
Just thinking that the title of this thread really needs a song... :)
"throw him in a yard full or rottweilers, throw him in a yard full or rottweilers, throw him in a yard full or rottweilers, early in the morning!!!!!!!"

mm stan
02-09-2013, 05:00 PM
Stan just try talk story with the guy..tell him you know a retired Mailman and my advice is to be his buddy,,Lol if that don't work give him some Soda or something just show him your Aloha..maybe it will rub of on him Haha

Aloha Lenny,
Did that,,,we talk alot and get along well....he just is absent minded and forgets things...he has a good personality and is a kind hearted guy...too bad he screws up..
I do show him aloha and even buys him christmas gift...well not this year..betcha know why.....arggggg