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Misguided Musician
02-18-2008, 04:45 PM
Anyone else have trouble hitting the high notes like me? Just wondering, how do you work with a song full of high notes?

Ukulele_Junkie
02-18-2008, 05:00 PM
Anyone else have trouble hitting the high notes like me? Just wondering, how do you work with a song full of high notes?

take the chords -2 semitones, so i dont need to sing so high with it.

tsudawuda
02-18-2008, 05:56 PM
forhet that. i cant sing high. so i just use the lower octave.

Misguided Musician
02-18-2008, 08:05 PM
take the chords -2 semitones, so i dont need to sing so high with it.
yeah but I want the song in the same octave. I find it hard for me to adjust. Instead of altering the chords, is there a way to like alter notes when it comes to singing?

Ukulele_Junkie
02-18-2008, 08:26 PM
yeah but I want the song in the same octave. I find it hard for me to adjust. Instead of altering the chords, is there a way to like alter notes when it comes to singing?

Another way might be to just work ur way up to the high note by doing a falcetto instead of trying to bust the note outta the blue. That's all i know tho, i'm not much an expert at these things so thats all i can advise

davoomac
02-19-2008, 12:49 PM
I have a naturally high voice for a guy so High notes don't give me too many problems.. But if you practice and keep singing you can naturally extend your range. Just don't over do it because you can hurt your voice, sometimes permanently. So if the song is too high, try it in a different key.

Misguided Musician
02-19-2008, 02:48 PM
I have a naturally high voice for a guy so High notes don't give me too many problems.. But if you practice and keep singing you can naturally extend your range. Just don't over do it because you can hurt your voice, sometimes permanently. So if the song is too high, try it in a different key.
Your lucky you can hit high notes. Yeah my friend said practice always helps. When I try singing high notes, my tonsils stick to the back of my throat and prevent me from singing high notes.Anyone have the similar problem or a solution perhaps?

<'Tony'>
02-19-2008, 02:59 PM
just practice hitting high notes

davoomac
02-19-2008, 03:14 PM
Your lucky you can hit high notes. Yeah my friend said practice always helps. When I try singing high notes, my tonsils stick to the back of my throat and prevent me from singing high notes.Anyone have the similar problem or a solution perhaps?

Hmm your tonsils stick when you sing? Its good to read all you can about singing, because there are many ways and styles to sing, but there are also many ways to sing wrong. It doesn't hurt to sing the high notes or anything does it?

One thing you can try is to warm up with some scales. Try this exercise: buzz your loops loosely together while humming a 5 tone scale. Go up in increments of half steps. Make sure you are using diaphragm when you are doing this with sufficient airflow. The lip buzz helps ensure that you are using enough air. On producing the tone just try to keep it open, free, and unstrained. The Brett Manning guy I mentioned earlier swears by this exercise and so do alot of other teachers. As always, don't try to go so high that it becomes uncomfortable.

Misguided Musician
02-20-2008, 04:28 AM
hey thanx davoo. I'll try that. My friend took singing classes and told me this weird thing about a teaspoon of oil supposedly helps helps also. Anyone else wanna clarify this?

davoomac
02-20-2008, 04:47 AM
hey thanx davoo. I'll try that. My friend took singing classes and told me this weird thing about a teaspoon of oil supposedly helps helps also. Anyone else wanna clarify this?

yeah they have some kinda magic singers fluid stuff. One of my friends performed here on Guam and went to the philippines and did showbiz there. I remember her using some kinda weird chinese remedy for the throat between sets.

Many voice teachers will just recommend keeping sufficiently hydrated (water will do fine). And don't over do it.. then won't need to take any of that oil stuff. They really do stress not overdoing the singing or even screaming or shouting to the point where you lose your voice. You can injure your vocal chords if you do.

davoomac
02-20-2008, 12:45 PM
Heres something you should check out.
how to build singing range (http://www.expertvillage.com/video/8045_voice-lessons-singing-range.htm)

Danyo Cummings
02-21-2008, 10:14 PM
I have no formal vocal coaching experience but i'll say this much.. if you are trying to hit a high note that is out of your normal register either practice singing it falsetto OR just do the easy thing and play it a key lower :P A singer shouldn't feel forced to fit the music. The music is supposed to fit the vocalist :)

davoomac
02-22-2008, 04:15 AM
I have no formal vocal coaching experience but i'll say this much.. if you are trying to hit a high note that is out of your normal register either practice singing it falsetto OR just do the easy thing and play it a key lower :P A singer shouldn't feel forced to fit the music. The music is supposed to fit the vocalist :)

There you go. Listen to Danyo, I think he is pretty experienced with this whole singing thing :D

Misguided Musician
02-22-2008, 08:52 PM
great tips guys. THanx so much. This will hopefully help me.

menehunenyc
03-08-2008, 06:37 PM
If sung all my life in choirs, classical and jazz. I was lucky enought to have received some excellent training in college too. For those who don't know how to sing and it doesn't come naturally, you need to start singing with people who do know how to sing. They will teach you how.
In a nutshell here is what you gotta do: To hit the high notes you have to tighten the belly. And thats about it. If you keep your abs rock hard, the pressure in you lungs will support your vocal chords so they don't get strained. You can't believe how complicated the human voice is, especially to sing nicely. You must be careful not to hurt yourself. In which case you may just have to do it the old fashioned way; seek instruction (via books or a live instructor) do the vocal exercises, and gradually extend your range. First though you have to find out if you are a tenor, baritone, or bass. If you are a bass you can just forget it, you were born to sing low. Baritones can sing high but it takes alot of time and will almost always be the falsetto voice. Tenors, you wouldn't be asking this question if you naturally had a high voice, you'd be doin' it already. I hope this helps.

menehunenyc
03-08-2008, 06:47 PM
weird thing about a teaspoon of oil supposedly helps helps also. Anyone else wanna clarify this?

Swallowing oil won't do anything for your vocal chords because when you swallow anything (air included) it goes down the esophagus to your stomach. Air going past the vocal chords to/from the lungs travel through a separate tube called the trachea.

However, I do know from personal experience that the back of the throat (where you can see the tonsils) can be soothed by drinking fluids. Perhaps the muscles and tissue there can be strained with over use or mis-use, smoke, etc.

I hope this helps.:o

Misguided Musician
03-09-2008, 07:00 AM
Well I found my problem. Like davoo mentioned I was singing wrong. I aparently figure out how to sing the right way last night. I think when I'm more relaxed my vocals are better because my vocal chords are more relaxed also and my notes don't seem forced which was my problem in the first place.

seth
03-23-2008, 02:47 PM
yeh it just takes practice. When i first started singing in high school, my voice could only stretch to D lol... but after lots of practice, i can hit high G now. Just make sure to practice though. Alot. And not only practice high notes, but everything. Tone, vibrato, etc... You don't wanna end up hitting high notes, and not be able to make it sound pretty :(

xkatrina
04-03-2008, 08:26 PM
http://www.musicforte.com/forums/about13.html

that forum says that oil does help ^^.

tsudawuda
04-03-2008, 11:16 PM
I tried the oil thing this afternoon. I didnt know it was olive oil, so i used vegetable oil. NOT A GOOD IDEA!
Its so gross. I had to drink three cans of root beer to get the feeling out >.<

Plainsong
04-06-2008, 05:41 PM
I'm one of those as well. I even did a little bit of opera once upon a time, and you're spot on. I remember that voice lesson where I sneezed and my teacher said "Like that!" It's all about air, air, air, and air. And the control of that air, and keeping your throat relaxed and singing all the way from your ankles. And then there's voice placement and stuff like that, but really, it's about air.

I don't recommend trying to strain yourself and using falsetto. Work with your own range and what's comfortable for you. Not every guy is a tenor, not every girl is a soprano.

I can't sing and play uke at the same time. It's too much like walking and chewing gum I guess. :D

I have the reverse problem of a crappy unreliable chest voice. I can't go low. Well, at least after the voice is warmed up (and talking during the day is enough for that), it's a crap shoot. I have a range down there, but when the vocal cords are tight, it tends to crack low and I loose all control of it. I've got a play coming up where I have to sing something in chest voice, and I've had to practice it two octaves up, just in case on the night with all those nerves, I don't have a chest voice.

The best kind of singing to my ears is what I think of as controlled speaking. Do what's natural for your voice. Stay in a range that's comfortable, and sing as if you're speaking and even if it's not perfect, if you mean it, then it will be music. :D

If you want to really push that throat, I'd recommend getting with a good voice teacher. All that junk about what oils and fluids (other than water) that are good for singing is all just a bunch of hooey. They're placebos. You think it helps and so it does. I knew a soprano who ate chocolate before singing - something all of us avoided, but we all had our rituals.. .they are just that, rituals.


If sung all my life in choirs, classical and jazz. I was lucky enought to have received some excellent training in college too. For those who don't know how to sing and it doesn't come naturally, you need to start singing with people who do know how to sing. They will teach you how.
In a nutshell here is what you gotta do: To hit the high notes you have to tighten the belly. And thats about it. If you keep your abs rock hard, the pressure in you lungs will support your vocal chords so they don't get strained. You can't believe how complicated the human voice is, especially to sing nicely. You must be careful not to hurt yourself. In which case you may just have to do it the old fashioned way; seek instruction (via books or a live instructor) do the vocal exercises, and gradually extend your range. First though you have to find out if you are a tenor, baritone, or bass. If you are a bass you can just forget it, you were born to sing low. Baritones can sing high but it takes alot of time and will almost always be the falsetto voice. Tenors, you wouldn't be asking this question if you naturally had a high voice, you'd be doin' it already. I hope this helps.

woohoo41
05-30-2009, 01:13 PM
Anyone else have trouble hitting the high notes like me? Just wondering, how do you work with a song full of high notes?

some people say think low when you wanna hit a high note. in other words, instead of raising your head up to the ceiling with all your might, try looking down (literaly) and sing high notes (i saw this on youtube btw).

ukulele2544
05-30-2009, 01:16 PM
instead of playing it sooo high I play it low.

J Holla
06-21-2009, 09:49 PM
i am terrified of high notes

Rodgerwilco
07-02-2009, 07:17 AM
yeah, i would just say practice! i've been singing in the choir at my school for 6 years now, and i sang bass for years and this year i just switched to tenor, and i just have to practice the songs over and over, make sure you have good posture, it sounds preachy but it does actually help you hit the notes that are higher in your range.

Pippin
07-24-2009, 11:31 AM
Be careful with some of the advice people give you about hitting the high notes. Your voice has a natural range and it is easy to strain if you do not expand your range correctly. Increasing your range is possible, but first off, you need to relax your throat, not tighten it. Most amateur singers think it is the other way around.

I have a natural baritone range, but I can hit high tenor range when I need to do so, but I won't sing lead in that range. I will do backup harmonies which put a lot less wear on me.

I am 51 years old and still sing fine, so, I know it pays to take care of your throat.

Thumper
07-24-2009, 11:44 AM
For troublesome songs, I use this site to help me find a key that A) fits the range of my voice and B) flows well on the ukulele.

http://www.logue.net/xp/

ogel916
08-06-2009, 10:58 PM
Not sure what you mean by high note. but for falsettos or any other high notes, basically, u need to push using ur stomach to force the note out. its hard to explain but you'll get it if u practice in the shower a lot. closing ur eyes or squinting might help.

eerteep
08-07-2009, 05:31 AM
i agree with Plainsong...controlled speaking worked best for me...this way was recommended to me...
i didn't know what key i sang in, so 'sang a scale' most comfortably into my tuner and my comfort zone was 'key of c' and i went from there...
i hated singin'; now i can't play without it!
good luck!
: )
p.

Carbon Kiwi
08-29-2009, 09:38 PM
This going to sound really, really stupid, but it's my honest answer--if I'm having some trouble with high notes, I'll sing along to some Mary Poppins music with the various characters. When I think I'm ready I'll tackle "Spoonful of Sugar" and hit her vocal interlude between two stanzas ('ahhh ahhahhahhahhaaaah...'). No kidding, it really tends to help me out. I'm sure there are better sound tracks to do that, but it's one I grew up with, so I've just stuck with it!

lizaloo
09-13-2009, 07:45 AM
With high notes the key is really to relax. You think you need to prepare yourself for them so you get all tense and then nothing comes out; I'm a soprano and used to have a really hard time with this, but, now that I have some training, they come easily. Just make sure that your mouth (the inside of it) is as open during the breath you take before you sing the note as when you sing it so the space is prepared.

So... relax and open up.

Also, it helps to convince yourself it's going to come out no matter what so you don't get worked up about it and then squeeze off the space before you even start singing. ;)