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bluesuke
03-05-2013, 01:14 PM
I could not resist any longer all the talk of the 16-32 and we had to take the plunge. What a great machine!!

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
03-05-2013, 01:23 PM
Good move. make sure you tighten the two collars that connect the drum to the motor after you've run it a bit. Not doing so will cause premature wear and frequent replacement of "spiders" (the rubber bushing that goes between the two.) After five years I've replaced the conveyor belt but other than that it's been a daily work horse for me and perfect for my shop.

Chris_H
03-05-2013, 01:43 PM
fun!

I'll be getting my 'new tool day' score sometime next week. A new sander coming my way too!

Cheers!

Enjoy your sander!

bluesuke
03-05-2013, 02:23 PM
Good move. make sure you tighten the two collars that connect the drum to the motor after you've run it a bit. Not doing so will cause premature wear and frequent replacement of "spiders" (the rubber bushing that goes between the two.) After five years I've replaced the conveyor belt but other than that it's been a daily work horse for me and perfect for my shop.

Thank you Chuck thats good to know

Piedmont Uke
03-05-2013, 02:47 PM
Does anyone have a good source for purchasing a 16/32? Is there a good online company to buy from? Or do you buy locally.
Ken

bluesuke
03-05-2013, 03:01 PM
Does anyone have a good source for purchasing a 16/32? Is there a good online company to buy from? Or do you buy locally.
Ken

I got this one at Wood craft they had a good sale going until 3/11/13 it was just about the same price as the 10-20

Piedmont Uke
03-05-2013, 03:05 PM
Thanks.I have one about an hour drive time from home. I like to buy local when it's within reason.

Ken

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
03-05-2013, 04:34 PM
I think the Woodcraft sale is 15% off of the Jet (Performax) sander.

(When it comes to some tools I'm going smaller, not bigger. I just bought a 3" Proxxon mini chop saw. Perfect for cutting braces and other small bits.)

Chris_H
03-05-2013, 04:57 PM
I think the Woodcraft sale is 15% off of the Jet (Performax) sander.

(When it comes to some tools I'm going smaller, not bigger. I just bought a 3" Proxxon mini chop saw. Perfect for cutting braces and other small bits.)

That reminds me of something.. another way for getting absolute tight plate joints.... is.. with the Festool circle saw and rail system. I would never have guessed it, but the shop next door uses one for joining large pieces of shop cut veneer (usually surfaced to about 0.080") it cuts dead clean! This system would work very well for instrument plates. And, its a super handy tool for cutting any sort of straight line. When you see it, if you have never seen it in the flesh, you will guess 'no way'. Gotta see it work to believe it. Over and over, dead tight joints.

mzuch
03-05-2013, 05:20 PM
I got this one at Wood craft they had a good sale going until 3/11/13

Amazon.com has it for the same price, and you may save sales tax depending on where you are.

bluesuke
03-05-2013, 05:33 PM
I think the Woodcraft sale is 15% off of the Jet (Performax) sander.

(When it comes to some tools I'm going smaller, not bigger. I just bought a 3" Proxxon mini chop saw. Perfect for cutting braces and other small bits.)

The best part NO sales tax in Oregon

ukeonthebeach
03-05-2013, 08:34 PM
I'm planning to take advantage of the sale too, but I'm on the fence between the 10-20 vs the 16-32. The 10 should be big enough for tenor tops, but the larger one would possibly be more useful all aound. Hmmmm.

Allen
03-05-2013, 09:03 PM
For my money, I'd go larger. I had a 10/20 for several years, and while I built a lot of instruments with it, switching to a twin drum sander at 26" wide was an absolute dream. Mine is fixed at both ends too so the effects related to a cantaliver system are moot.

The disadvantage of the cantilevered system on the Jet is that the outboard side wants to spread up under load. Sure you can spend some time getting it set up just so, and have work arounds by flipping the stock going through etc. Heck, I learn't all the tricks when I was using mine every day.

But when you go wider those variations are much less noticeable.

Flyfish57
03-06-2013, 01:28 AM
Does anyone have a good source for purchasing a 16/32? Is there a good online company to buy from? Or do you buy locally.
Ken

I would keep an eye out on Craig's List. I bought mine from a guy in Boston for 450.00 It came with three boxes of sandpaper rolls. One box had one roll missing...It was on the sander.

jcalkin
03-06-2013, 04:46 AM
I swapped for a 10/20 a few years ago. Its such a toy that I seldom use it. At H&D we have an old twin drum Performax and a Timesaver, so I take all my personal stuff to work early and do it there. The wide belt Timesaver is a dream machine, but I'll never have one. It wouldn't even fit in my shop, and I probably wouldn't live long enough to do enough work to pay it off. The Performax drums load up the abrasive with any resinous wood, but only cocobolo loads up the wide belt. We keep belts on hand just for cocobolo now that we use a lot of it.

But having said that, back in the day I had a Performax drum that attached to a radial arm saw. It ran off the saw motor and used the column adjustment for depth. It loaded the abrasives readily and had no power feed, but it was miles ahead of having no thickness sander at all.

Rick Turner
03-06-2013, 06:54 AM
If you do most of your drum/wide belt sanding at about 20 to 30 degrees to the grain, you'll get less loading. Also, cloth backed belts and drum strips respond pretty well to power washing. There's also a strange but wonderful system (expensive...) for blasting sanding belts with dry ice. Taylor does this. As anyone with a substantial sized wide belt sander knows...the belts are really expensive.

Chris_H
03-06-2013, 07:48 AM
I have a 'barn door' fixture, a hinged piece of plywood on an exterior wall, to hold the belts while washing. I powerwash them when necessary. I sand a lot of Cocobolo also. It does fine to 80 grit, OK to 100, and starts loading at 120.

Yes, the belts cost a bit to buy, (though for the SDM-15 belts are about $18 each, not expensive) but I do not really notice the cost as they last quite a while as long as I do not burn one through operator error.

These tools MAKE money. Shop time is valuable, should be well in excess of $1/minute for tasks other than 'sweeping the floor'.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
03-06-2013, 08:00 AM
Easy-Off oven cleaner.

Chris_H
03-06-2013, 08:03 AM
I use that for saw blades, works well. Thyat stuff is so toxic, I use it as little as possible. Not sure I would use it for belts due to the nasty fumes, and cost really. Powerwash works well

Koa Soprano
03-06-2013, 07:29 PM
Nice tool, I regret selling my 16/32. I think I would get the 10/20 though for space.

ukeonthebeach
03-17-2013, 08:47 AM
I ordered one too while the sale was on. It's supposed to arrive on Wednesday. :o

Tarhead
03-17-2013, 10:42 AM
Does anyone have a good source for purchasing a 16/32? Is there a good online company to buy from? Or do you buy locally.
Ken

Ken,
General Industrial Supply in Nashville, TN has good pricing on Jet/Powermatic/WMH machinery. They have extremely good pricing on Scratch and Dent Jet/Powermatic/WMH machinery. They are involved with returns/overstock/discontinued machinery for these brands. You have to call them to check their inventory on these items (ie: they don't publish them on their website). Ask for Jimbo.
http://www.generalindustrial.com/

UkeKiddinMe
03-17-2013, 11:11 AM
I'm humble - I'll show my ignorance. :)

What's a 16-32?

taylordb
03-17-2013, 11:29 AM
It is a model of thickness sander from Jet. It is a cantilever drum design that will sand 16" wide.....you can sand a board 32" wide if you do one pass than turn the board around front to back and then put it through for a second pass.

Tarhead
03-17-2013, 11:31 AM
I'm humble - I'll show my ignorance. :)

What's a 16-32?

Jet Drum Sander that is 16" wide with an open end. This allows a 32" board to be sanded on half, spun around and sanded on the other half.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fkcI6s62E0

mjgreenwood
03-17-2013, 04:21 PM
Love mine, got it on Craigslist.

Great Buy!

Chris_H
03-19-2013, 10:55 AM
here is my new sander. All 10 HP of it, digitasl controls, adjustable platen, 75" belts.. this is an awesome tool!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8573091130_ab4f4325d7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51504257@N02/8573091130/)

ukeonthebeach
03-19-2013, 07:19 PM
here is my new sander. All 10 HP of it, digitasl controls, adjustable platen, 75" belts.. this is an awesome tool!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8573091130_ab4f4325d7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51504257@N02/8573091130/)



Holy schmoooo!!!

Beau Hannam Ukuleles
03-20-2013, 01:48 PM
here is my new sander. All 10 HP of it, digitasl controls, adjustable platen, 75" belts.. this is an awesome tool!

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8368/8573091130_ab4f4325d7_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/51504257@N02/8573091130/)

im flying over to your place just so i can touch that sweet thing!