PDA

View Full Version : UK 'Lacey Act' equivalent



Pete Howlett
03-28-2013, 10:34 PM
Actually this is EU Law found here http://www.bis.gov.uk/nmo/enforcement/EU-Timber-Regulation

And so it starts in the UK, raised by Rob Collins who posts on this board. Very much like Lacey, our equivalent is a dog's dinner. What will happen is there will be a prosecution which will create 'case law' and the whole thing will be modified to a sensible, necessary agreement.

The ridiculous thing is its an EU regulation designed to smoke out wood smugglers - something that is practically impossible to do on an island with such highly developed and strict border controls... anyone determined to do it would need to have such considerable resources as to be totally dis-interested in the small user like me. I am adopting the French approach by ignoring the 'threat' whilst being very English and getting all my documentation and stock control digitally and manually organised.

First time for everything.

Maverick47
03-29-2013, 12:00 AM
Vote UKIP.

snarf
03-29-2013, 01:15 AM
For those interested, this is the "official" text, with links to the whole procedure.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32010R0995:EN:NOT

The procedure started in 2008 - adopted in 2010 by codecision, which means that
both the European Parliament (people you voted for) as the Council of the EU, (the ministers, in this case
in the "Competitiveness" configuration, so it's usually the minister of economy/industry or research) made amendments
to the Commission proposal and voted on it.

Anyway "it" started a while ago and the dogs dinner had many, many cooks...

Pete Howlett
03-29-2013, 01:21 AM
Oh eck - it came into force in the UK MArch 3rd. Sooo here's the thing, it is very apparent that the rest of Europe is pretty much ignoring this then?

snarf
03-29-2013, 01:34 AM
Regulation means binding in it's entirity for the whole of the EU, so in principle it is in force as from the 3rd of March on this side of the pond.

snarf
03-29-2013, 01:50 AM
"The Member States shall lay down the rules on penalties applicable to infringements of the provisions of this Regulation and shall take all measures necessary to ensure that they are implemented."

So some will be sensible, others maybe not

Pete Howlett
03-29-2013, 04:21 AM
And the British will act like Martinettes as usual whilst the Spanish will go and have a nap, the French drink another bottle of wine and the Germans already have everything in place!

ukulian
03-29-2013, 09:07 AM
And the British will act like Martinettes as usual whilst the Spanish will go and have a nap, the French drink another bottle of wine and the Germans already have everything in place!

I'm not German!