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Kyle23
04-11-2013, 10:50 PM
I'm sold that the uke community will ever be satisfied lol, you should have to sign something when you buy your first uke that says "Thou shall never be satisfied". Whether it be the ukulele itself or your skill set. Before I even bought my ukulele, I said "Man I just want to be able to play 1 song, that would be so amazing!", wrong. I can't learn enough songs. I told myself, I want one uke, I want to make this my only one. It's so special, this one will satisfy me SURELY. Wrong again! I had to get another one just weeks after my first. I told myself, just 2, I couldn't imagine having any more than that. Well I want another one, and I don't just want another ONE, I want multiple ukes. It's a curse really, a beautiful curse that keeps us coming back for more.

I understand that wanting to increase your skill in anything is just human nature, but this is a whole different level than I'm used to. I'm not even satisfied with the strings I use. I literally put on new strings, LOVE them and then switch them out because they're "not good enough" and to try different ones. Why can't I be happy with 1 ukulele and 1 set of strings? I feel like I'm losing my mind here lol. Has anyone actually reached satisfaction on any level with this instrument?! :p

Hippie Dribble
04-11-2013, 10:53 PM
um.....


hmmmmmm.....



no.



:deadhorse:

Kyle23
04-11-2013, 10:55 PM
Am I beating a dead horse with this thread? Sorry about that.

Hippie Dribble
04-11-2013, 11:25 PM
Am I beating a dead horse with this thread? Sorry about that.

na, not at all brother, it's a great thread...that was just a reference to my own self deprecation and loathing... he he :o

AndrewKuker
04-12-2013, 12:31 AM
You just want a really good uke which can be expensive. Especially when you get three entry level and two mid priced ones before you realize that. Not like desire ever ends, but satisfaction is out there for you. Most likely..

mm stan
04-12-2013, 01:01 AM
Aloha Kyle,
It's part of your ukulele journey....we all go through the same desires whether you achieve them or not, make sure it is fun....Happy Strummings
maybe it's not about the level of things and more of a passion and enjoyment factor...if you can have fun with a 24.95 uke as much as a custom, you have achieved ukulele nirvana:)

austin1
04-12-2013, 01:11 AM
I only have one uke! And no desire to get another one, this one suits me just fine :)

Edit: Although I think I'm the exception to the rule.

Ambient Doughnut
04-12-2013, 01:20 AM
I think it's cyclical - I went through a phase or wanting more and got up to 10 or so. Now paring them back to the ones I actually play. I expect I'll want more again at some point but I spend 99% of my playing time on the one little Kala.

mm stan
04-12-2013, 01:48 AM
Nice! Hey Stan, definitely a wiser outlook. It's truly different for everyone but based on Kyle's pattern, he is lacking something in tone, perhaps intonation, that has him stringing instead of playing. It doesn't matter the price, but the quality tools plus the passion gives the satisfaction. no? sometimes..

Aloha Andrew,
Yes he seems to definitely need a setup ukulele from you bruddah....sometimes like you said, without the proper tools you cannot achieve satisfaction....:)

AndrewKuker
04-12-2013, 01:48 AM
Aloha Kyle,
It's part of your ukulele journey....we all go through the same desires whether you achieve them or not, make sure it is fun....Happy Strummings
maybe it's not about the level of things and more of a passion and enjoyment factor...if you can have fun with a 24.95 uke as much as a custom, you have achieved ukulele nirvana:)
ya, that too :D

teruterubouzu
04-12-2013, 03:03 AM
I know exactly what you mean. Maybe Andrew and Stan are right. That's why I'm saving for a koaloha concert (after I get my Mainland tenor). See, I'm worse than you! ; )

ukuhippo
04-12-2013, 03:27 AM
Sold my bari, and after owning 5 ukes I'm now back to just owning a Dolphin. Happier than ever, and strumming and picking like a very very very happy madman.

strumsilly
04-12-2013, 04:02 AM
I only have one uke! And no desire to get another one, this one suits me just fine :)

Edit: Although I think I'm the exception to the rule.
you are my hero. I want to be like you when I grow up. but I'd have to sell my preciouss.

UkerDanno
04-12-2013, 04:59 AM
at my level there's always something better out there. I just got my 3rd, a Kala solid top acacia and am already drooling over a Martin C1k that's set to arrive at the local store any day...if it's impressive I probably won't be able to resist, even though I have no business spending that amount on a uke at my skill level, which is good enough to entertain myself and annoy other people! ;);)

stevepetergal
04-12-2013, 05:00 AM
na, not at all brother, it's a great thread...that was just a reference to my own self deprecation and loathing... he he :o

Wow. Eugene Ukulele "self deprecation and loathing" Wow!

I guess it's the never-ending dissatisfaction that makes musicians truly great, like Eugene Ukulele. I watch his videos and can't imagine him wanting to get better. Dissatisfaction's sort of a secret weapon.

Now constantly striving for a better instrument, strings, tuner, case, music stand,... is a problem. (the industry's secret weapon)

PereBourik
04-12-2013, 06:02 AM
If my wife can have nine cats, why can't I have nine ukuleles?

bnolsen
04-12-2013, 06:22 AM
If my wife can have nine cats, why can't I have nine ukuleles?

How about a new wife or maybe a new pit bull? (sorry I really, really hate cats).

noogee
04-12-2013, 06:31 AM
If my wife can have nine cats, why can't I have nine ukuleles?

Not once have I had a uke puke on the floor. I would think 2 ukes for every cat would be reasonable.

Kayak Jim
04-12-2013, 06:36 AM
In addition to the making music aspect of playing the uke, there's also, like in many pursuits, the hobby aspect. Seeking the best strings, checking out and yearning for the new models, participating in forums are all part of the enjoyment for many. Have fun with it!

PedalFreak
04-12-2013, 06:43 AM
Yeah, satisfaction comes with time. You don't know enough yet in the beginning. Once you figure some things out then contentment and satisfaction come. I've got a few ukes, I've got one that gets 98% of my playing time.

I'm also a guitar player. A few years ago I owned 40+ guitars, 20+ amps, 150 or so effect pedals. I now own 12 guitars, 2 amps and about 12 effects. Much more satisfied :)

bborzell
04-12-2013, 08:03 AM
For most, getting the Outdoor Uke will be the final chapter in the quest for satisfaction. When you realize that, long after all these wood ukes of predictable lifespan are biodegraded, the Outdoor Uke will still be sitting there in the corner or against a rock or a charred tree in a post apocalyptic world, only then can the truth come home; that wood is nice for the short term, but only plastic is forever.

PereBourik
04-12-2013, 08:21 AM
How about a new wife or maybe a new pit bull? (sorry I really, really hate cats).

Nope, the wife's a keeper.

PereBourik
04-12-2013, 08:25 AM
Not once have I had a uke puke on the floor. I would think 2 ukes for every cat would be reasonable.

If I had a uke for every time a cat puked on the floor/chair/bed/table/nightstand/you-name-it, Andrew, Mim, and Music Guy Mike would be wealthy and I wouldn't have time to play for filling all the humidifiers and keeping them in tune. Probably the only way I could keep up is by buying low-end ukes by the pallet-load.

It's all good. Besides, 4 of those cats I really like.

PereBourik
04-12-2013, 08:32 AM
String Acquisition Syndrome is the gateway to Ukulele Acquisition Syndrome. But it can't hold UAS off for long.

teruterubouzu
04-12-2013, 09:10 AM
For most, getting the Outdoor Uke will be the final chapter in the quest for satisfaction. When you realize that, long after all these wood ukes of predictable lifespan are biodegraded, the Outdoor Uke will still be sitting there in the corner or against a rock or a charred tree in a post apocalyptic world, only then can the truth come home; that wood is nice for the short term, but only plastic is forever.

I wonder if it can double as a zombie defensive weapon?

bnolsen
04-12-2013, 09:18 AM
For most, getting the Outdoor Uke will be the final chapter in the quest for satisfaction. When you realize that, long after all these wood ukes of predictable lifespan are biodegraded, the Outdoor Uke will still be sitting there in the corner or against a rock or a charred tree in a post apocalyptic world, only then can the truth come home; that wood is nice for the short term, but only plastic is forever.

Only when they start making them out of recycled baby diapers will that be true.

hawaii 50
04-12-2013, 09:32 AM
Hey Kyle it is tough this UAS thing..

this what I did in 1 year I got all my Kamaka,KoAloha and Kanile'a ukes then went shopping for the rest of my ukes.. all are semi or custom ukes..

I told myself 10 is the ideal number for me as you can play only one at a time..i am waiting for a bunch of them being built now or later next year..so I am going to end up with 11 one over my target number..

so right now for sure I am done buying ukes for my collection and going to really start to practice/play as much as possible,you are lucky you started when you so young..by the time you my age you could be a great player..

take your time read up on the luthiers that are younger and follow their careers(i.e. Eric Devine and Jake Maclay) they are only in their 30's so if they keep building in 5 or 10 years check in with them..stop drinking a soda a day and start saving your money bruddah..

if you ever come out to Oahu..i will take you to the best uke stores and some of the factories..

gitarzan
04-12-2013, 10:21 AM
I am getting the Outdoor Uke, but other than that, I'm limiting myself... "Must resist urge to buy"

I have more than I can even carry with me. After the KoAlana Sopranana, I decided to stop buying the low end stuff I had been collecting.

I still want more. But I am running out of space.

Cheap ones I want:

I saw an Oscar Schmidt 6 string used at MGR. I want it, it sounded interesting.
I saw a thin Kala travel ukulele at S.A. It really sounded sweet, and played well. I wanted it badly, but walked away. (Went back to get it and it was gone! :wallbash: )

My plan is to buy a much much nicer box next time. That KoAlana is sweet and fills the bill in soprano land, but my next concert will be a truly fine instrument. Right now what I go it good enuff.

Tigeralum2001
04-12-2013, 01:06 PM
I am satisfied, but I am also a product of my consumerism culture. It is a battle between the two. I have been downsizing my collection, but in that process I picked up a couple of nice ukes. I am net negative, and trying to get down further.


In terms of playing though, there is always room for improvement. Even Jake thinks he can get better. So I would say I will likely never be satisfied with my playing. I'd like to be content one day, though.

Appalachian picker
04-12-2013, 01:47 PM
I am satisfied, but I am also a product of my consumerism culture.


In terms of playing though, there is always room for improvement.

I'm one of the few that has only one ukulele - and actually it's borrowed from a friend. When I get a Barry Tone I'll give the little soprano back to it's owner. I'm not a collector of anything and really don't like to have a lot of "stuff." I like to think that I fight back against consumerism.

But I certainly do not begrudge anyone that does collect or likes to have multiple ukuleles....it's just not my style.

PereBourik
04-12-2013, 04:03 PM
KoAloha Longneck Pineapple
Outdoor Ukulele or Flea
Then I'm done. Probably. Maybe. I really mean it this time.

TG&Y
04-12-2013, 04:26 PM
AMEN and AMEN


Aloha Kyle,
It's part of your ukulele journey....we all go through the same desires whether you achieve them or not, make sure it is fun....Happy Strummings
maybe it's not about the level of things and more of a passion and enjoyment factor...if you can have fun with a 24.95 uke as much as a custom, you have achieved ukulele nirvana:)

janeray1940
04-12-2013, 04:40 PM
Yeah, satisfaction comes with time. You don't know enough yet in the beginning. Once you figure some things out then contentment and satisfaction come.

Yes. This exactly.

I've been playing for 4 years and have owned nine ukes total. In the beginning it was a matter of not knowing what I wanted; I figured it out pretty quickly after going through a series of ukes ranging from vintage to an assortment of K-brands, and ending with a custom. Of those nine ukes, I've kept four (the custom, a low G, a beater, and a daily player that has huge sentimental value). I don't see any need for more, and I no longer spend any time pondering what I should buy next.

As for strings - I eventually figured out that I like Martin M600s on all of my ukes, and wound guitar D strings for my low G. Easy to find, cheap, and they sound great. Again, completely satisfied, and have zero temptation to try out the "latest and greatest."

Which brings us to... skill. I like to think that all the time I used to spend seeking out, buying and trying ukes I now spend actually *playing* ukes. While I get frustrated with my own skill level on a daily basis - I hang out with a lot of musicians and am always, always in awe of what people who have been playing all of their lives can do - I have to remind myself that four years ago, playing an E chord was a struggle, and now I'm playing Bach and John King. So again - definitely satisfied, but motivated to keep learning and improving.

Dan Uke
04-12-2013, 04:48 PM
Aloha Kyle,
It's part of your ukulele journey....we all go through the same desires whether you achieve them or not, make sure it is fun....Happy Strummings
maybe it's not about the level of things and more of a passion and enjoyment factor...if you can have fun with a 24.95 uke as much as a custom, you have achieved ukulele nirvana:)

Yet you buy more...I guess you want Nirvana Overload. :drool:

hawaii 50
04-12-2013, 05:01 PM
Yes. This exactly.

I've been playing for 4 years and have owned nine ukes total. In the beginning it was a matter of not knowing what I wanted; I figured it out pretty quickly after going through a series of ukes ranging from vintage to an assortment of K-brands, and ending with a custom. Of those nine ukes, I've kept four (the custom, a low G, a beater, and a daily player that has huge sentimental value). I don't see any need for more, and I no longer spend any time pondering what I should buy next.




As for strings - I eventually figured out that I like Martin M600s on all of my ukes, and wound guitar D strings for my low G. Easy to find, cheap, and they sound great. Again, completely satisfied, and have zero temptation to try out the "latest and greatest."

Which brings us to... skill. I like to think that all the time I used to spend seeking out, buying and trying ukes I now spend actually *playing* ukes. While I get frustrated with my own skill level on a daily basis - I hang out with a lot of musicians and am always, always in awe of what people who have been playing all of their lives can do - I have to remind myself that four years ago, playing an E chord was a struggle, and now I'm playing Bach and John King. So again - definitely satisfied, but motivated to keep learning and improving.


Yes I get you..
I really want to spend all my time practicing now I have spent the last year thinking about my next uke reading everything and learning the do's and dont's in getting the right uke,,,,what kind of wood,binding,purfling etc.. but now I see the end of the buying rainbow and it feels so good!

I think it can drive you crazy..

now if I can get my UU habit under control it will be all good.. Lol I just need strings and lessons.. I am set..


So Kyle ..this is what you have to look forward too,,hopefully you have fun along the way..
keep on strumming

Dan Uke
04-12-2013, 05:07 PM
NEVER!! u gonna miss the nice people on UU. You can only practice only so much. Even your favorite luthiers need abreak and go on UU


Yes I get you..
I really want to spend all my time practicing now I have spent the last year thinking about my next uke reading everything and learning the do's and dont's in getting the right uke,,,,what kind of wood,binding,purfling etc.. but now I see the end of the buying rainbow and it feels so good!

I think it can drive you crazy..

now if I can get my UU habit under control it will be all good.. Lol I just need strings and lessons.. I am set..

hawaii 50
04-12-2013, 05:11 PM
NEVER!! u gonna miss the nice people on UU. You can only practice only so much. Even your favorite luthiers need abreak and go on UU

Haha Daniel

I said "under control" not quit..but sometimes I can not get off cause of good people like you..good fun

808boy
04-12-2013, 05:12 PM
After 2 years and 30 something ukes, I'm figuring out what really fits me on aesthetics, comfortability, sound, and size. Sold 1, gave away many.
What I thought was the best a year ago is now, meh, it's okay.
Some may say it was an expensive journey but I enjoyed it.
I now know what I like and will always be grateful to the ukes along my journey for the lessons I learned.

Dan Uke
04-12-2013, 05:17 PM
The journey is fun, painful, costly, but definitely worth it! Now you know what you like and dont like and not following the hype...at least less frequently. :p


After 2 years and 30 something ukes, I'm figuring out what really fits me on aesthetics, comfortability, sound, and size. Sold 1, gave away many.
What I thought was the best a year ago is now, meh, it's okay.
Some may say it was an expensive journey but I enjoyed it.
I now know what I like and will always be grateful to the ukes along my journey for the lessons I learned.

mm stan
04-12-2013, 05:19 PM
AMEN and AMEN

I remembered when I first started I blamed a lot of my shortcomings on my quality of uke, now I understand that any uke that has a good set up and strings and has a good voice, price
does not matter....saying that, back then I did not know how to acheive tunings, upgrade strings and a setup so I bought more ukes searching and upgrading...now I know better

stevepetergal
04-12-2013, 05:42 PM
Nope, the wife's a keeper.

Nope the wife's the Pit Bull.

coolkayaker1
04-12-2013, 05:45 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs

Nickie
04-12-2013, 06:02 PM
I only have one uke! And no desire to get another one, this one suits me just fine :)

Edit: Although I think I'm the exception to the rule.

Me too! I can never outplay this uke! It appeals more to me to save money for this beautiful Kiawa baby grand piano I want, even though the uke is my primary instrument...I guess I don't get UAS...I don't have it...!

Nickie
04-12-2013, 06:22 PM
How about a new wife or maybe a new pit bull? (sorry I really, really hate cats).

you just havne't had the right cat yet....pit bull, how cruel...

electrauke
04-12-2013, 06:24 PM
NEVER! I will never decline ukes!

Nickie
04-12-2013, 06:31 PM
Yes. This exactly.

I've been playing for 4 years and have owned nine ukes total. In the beginning it was a matter of not knowing what I wanted; I figured it out pretty quickly after going through a series of ukes ranging from vintage to an assortment of K-brands, and ending with a custom. Of those nine ukes, I've kept four (the custom, a low G, a beater, and a daily player that has huge sentimental value). I don't see any need for more, and I no longer spend any time pondering what I should buy next.

As for strings - I eventually figured out that I like Martin M600s on all of my ukes, and wound guitar D strings for my low G. Easy to find, cheap, and they sound great. Again, completely satisfied, and have zero temptation to try out the "latest and greatest."

Which brings us to... skill. I like to think that all the time I used to spend seeking out, buying and trying ukes I now spend actually *playing* ukes. While I get frustrated with my own skill level on a daily basis - I hang out with a lot of musicians and am always, always in awe of what people who have been playing all of their lives can do - I have to remind myself that four years ago, playing an E chord was a struggle, and now I'm playing Bach and John King. So again - definitely satisfied, but motivated to keep learning and improving.

Wow, kewl...I aspire to playing Bach someday, and some of John King's stuff too...neato...

Dan Uke
04-13-2013, 01:54 AM
Me too! I can never outplay this uke! It appeals more to me to save money for this beautiful Kiawa baby grand piano I want, even though the uke is my primary instrument...I guess I don't get UAS...I don't have it...!

is it your WW?

mm stan
04-13-2013, 02:18 AM
Aloha Danny,
Nickie is talking about her beautiful Kala that she has and now she has a kala U bass....woww

UkeKiddinMe
04-13-2013, 03:35 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKG07305CBs

:D
:cool:

barefootgypsy
04-13-2013, 04:40 AM
Happy with my Kiwaya soprano - happy with my Tanglewood concert - don't want a tenor - got three lovely vintage banjo-ukes..... would like a bari at some point, but no rush. A shelf-load of music to play and not enough hours in the day....... I'm a very happy bunny. If someone would buy me a beautiful hand-made Pete Howlett, that would be wonderful ...... but I'm content. Pretty uke, pretty sound.... what more do you want?

guitharsis
04-14-2013, 12:52 AM
Yes. This exactly.

I've been playing for 4 years and have owned nine ukes total. In the beginning it was a matter of not knowing what I wanted; I figured it out pretty quickly after going through a series of ukes ranging from vintage to an assortment of K-brands, and ending with a custom. Of those nine ukes, I've kept four (the custom, a low G, a beater, and a daily player that has huge sentimental value). I don't see any need for more, and I no longer spend any time pondering what I should buy next.

As for strings - I eventually figured out that I like Martin M600s on all of my ukes, and wound guitar D strings for my low G. Easy to find, cheap, and they sound great. Again, completely satisfied, and have zero temptation to try out the "latest and greatest."

Which brings us to... skill. I like to think that all the time I used to spend seeking out, buying and trying ukes I now spend actually *playing* ukes. While I get frustrated with my own skill level on a daily basis - I hang out with a lot of musicians and am always, always in awe of what people who have been playing all of their lives can do - I have to remind myself that four years ago, playing an E chord was a struggle, and now I'm playing Bach and John King. So again - definitely satisfied, but motivated to keep learning and improving.

Interesting post and I've done some of the same. Buying and trying. Recently found myself with 8 ukes and had to let a couple of "keepers" go.
Received a gorgeous curly koa concert KoAloha from HMS and decided to let my older KoAlohas go. 6 ukes is more than enough and I may even end up with 4, one of each K brand and a G-string.

Do like playing Bach and John King too.:) And yes, time to just concentrate on playing what I do have.

barefootgypsy
04-14-2013, 02:36 AM
I have to remind myself that four years ago, playing an E chord was a struggle, and now I'm playing Bach and John King. So again - definitely satisfied, but motivated to keep learning and improving. That's great, Jane! I'd like to see a video of your Bach and John King pieces - I love those, but can't yet play them. There's a level of tab, where I think - "that's within my scope if I work at it..." and then there's beyond. Bach and John King are beyond!

janeray1940
04-14-2013, 08:57 AM
I'd like to see a video of your Bach and John King pieces - I love those, but can't yet play them.

For a miles-long list of reasons, I no longer do videos. But here's the thing - these pieces take a LOT of work. I mean, years - at least in my case, as someone who didn't start playing seriously until I was in my 40s. I can't honestly say I play any of the King pieces *well* at this point - but the important thing is to play them if you enjoy them!

I don't see this whole ukulele thing as a competition... It's not a matter of being "good enough" to be worthy of something, be it a high-end ukulele or a certain complexity of an arrangement. If you enjoy it, play it - and you'll eventually master it.

barefootgypsy
04-14-2013, 10:36 AM
For a miles-long list of reasons, I no longer do videos. But here's the thing - these pieces take a LOT of work. I mean, years - at least in my case, as someone who didn't start playing seriously until I was in my 40s. I can't honestly say I play any of the King pieces *well* at this point - but the important thing is to play them if you enjoy them!

Yes, the the thing that puts me off is is the sheer amount of work they would take, speaking as someone who got my first uke in my mid fifties, and only started to put serious regular effort in eighteen months ago, at 61. I prefer smaller challenges, something where I can see the end in sight. That's rewarding for me. Regular smaller challenges, regular little triumphs. Too late in life to start to crochet a tablecloth!

TheOnlyUkeThatMatters
04-14-2013, 11:09 AM
I get a little more satisfied everytime I notice another ding on my main uke. I get even more satisfied each time I notice more finish has been scratched away by my playing. I guess I'll be totally satisfied when I've worn a hole in the soundboard.

Kyle23
04-14-2013, 01:06 PM
There's way too many posts to respond to in here lol. I'll let you guys keep going though, awesome replies!

CasanovaGuy
04-15-2013, 12:57 AM
No. I always find something about my playing that makes me question why I've ever picked up an ukulele, and I always try to improve upon it. I dunno, I think it's because I'm under that pressure to perform well for others wherever/whenever, since music is a performing art. And also because it's pretty satisfying to pass goals you set for yourself. You feel like you're living dat thug lyf, jah know.

As for uke quality, the only thing that matters to me is that my uke be a tenor. Which mine is. So I'm totes satisfied with my uke.