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Eyeguy
04-13-2013, 04:17 PM
I realize full well that most folks here, and in general as well, play newer model ukes. That having been said, there are more than a few uke owners who appreciate vintage ukes as well, owning both new and old instruments in their stables. On the Unofficial Martin Guitar Forum, the vintage section is one of the more popular sections on the forum, frequented both by owners of vintage guitars as well as those just wanting to learn something about the history of vintage guitars.

Does anyone think there is enough interest in having such a vintage section here, where those with particular knowledge of vintage ukes can offer their expertise to those interested in learning something about the history of vintage ukes and/or pursuing this side of uke collecting, and owners of vintage instruments can offer history, photos, sound/video clips, and other pertinent information about their particular instruments.


If not, I certainly understand - just thought I'd throw it out there.

Hippie Dribble
04-13-2013, 04:21 PM
I think it's a great idea.

Dan Uke
04-13-2013, 04:25 PM
Sure...They should charge extra for these members so they could feel special and help with the maintenance

lakesideglenn
04-13-2013, 04:38 PM
A vintage uke section is a wonderful idea!

connor013
04-13-2013, 04:58 PM
Sure...They should charge extra for these members so they could feel special and help with the maintenance

Well played.

I think a vintage section is a good idea. I've tried to get the bug (think Favilla, Kamaka, Gibson -- and a bunch of plastics) but nothing's stuck yet. Would love to hear some reasons/see some pics to help keep me on the quest.

It may be more of a LL thing, but I particularly would like to see some vintage restorations, a la Jake at Antebellum.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
04-13-2013, 05:26 PM
That's such a good idea I wonder why is hasn't been thought of before.

coolkayaker1
04-13-2013, 06:01 PM
It's a good idea.

What would you all suggest to UU as a cutoff date for a vintage uke?

Liam Ryan
04-13-2013, 09:49 PM
It's a good idea.

What would you all suggest to UU as a cutoff date for a vintage uke?

You can only comment if the uke in question is older than you are ;)

hmgberg
04-14-2013, 12:33 AM
Well played.

I think a vintage section is a good idea. I've tried to get the bug (think Favilla, Kamaka, Gibson -- and a bunch of plastics) but nothing's stuck yet. Would love to hear some reasons/see some pics to help keep me on the quest.

It may be more of a LL thing, but I particularly would like to see some vintage restorations, a la Jake at Antebellum.

You can see some pics of a Hollywood concert ukulele I restored. They are in an album on my page on this forum.

dkcrown
04-14-2013, 12:53 AM
Excellent idea. I would love to learn more about vintage ukes and having a section on the forum dedicated to them would be awesome.

larson1951
04-14-2013, 01:05 AM
absolutely a great idea

rpfrogner
04-14-2013, 02:06 AM
Sounds good to me!

dismount
04-14-2013, 02:15 AM
I'd love it. Eyeguy is a genius.

Pondoro
04-14-2013, 02:21 AM
Great idea. I've only got two old ukes, (1920's BU and a 1960s?? Baritone), but I love reading about and talking about old ukes. I would suggest that "Vintage" for these purposes should be "before the third uke wave" without a firm cutoff date. So late 1980's Kamaka's and such would still qualify, but your 2005 whatever would not. People should 1) Use their judgement, 2) Not get into snarky arguments like: "That's NOT vintage!" "Yes it IS!".

oldetymey
04-14-2013, 02:26 AM
That is a good idea, as long as everyone posts lots of pics! :) While were at it can we do a "new uke day" section as well? I think wed have plenty of threads to fill it;)

Eyeguy
04-14-2013, 10:15 AM
As to someone's question about what constitutes "vintage" in the uke world, there is obviously no official source for this information. In the guitar world, there is a continuing and considerable difference of opinion regarding a working definition of vintage, but most probably consider 1970 a rough cut off date, for a number of reasons which I won't go into, but nothing is etched in stone here. In the ukulele world, things may be more open, and, given the difficulty of precisely dating some of the cool but unmarked ukes that are discovered in flea markets, EBAY, yard sales and the like, it is simply hard to know sometimes just how old a particular uke is. Therefore, I think we as a forum could decide whatever we want, provided, as Pondoro mentioned above, we are not too anal about it and quick to jump on folks who post something we may think doesn't "technically" qualify. For those genuinely interested in the creation of a vintage section, we could conduct a poll asking folks what they would like to use as a loose forum definition and run with the results, with the clear understanding that this "definition" is not binding and that anyone who would like to post an instrument that has the characteristics of something made in a bygone period, could do so without fear of being rebuked if it turns out to be something made 8 years ago.

Along those lines, hopefully, some of our resident builders like Chuck Moore and Rick Turner and others, who possess a wealth of information about ukulele history as well as exquisite luthiery skills, could serve as resident detectives in helping to identify some of these older ukes based on build characteristics and the like.

Stickys ( see below) providing information about the history of various vintage ukes, where available, could give folks general information allowing some self instruction prior to asking more specific and personal questions about specific vintage ukes from actual owners.

http://www.geocities.com/~ukulele/martin.html


Lastly, the intent for any such section would be pure knowledge acquisition and fun, not an ongoing discussion of how much better vintage ukes are than newer models, and vice versa. Those kinds of opinions, where present, are always better left checked at the door. It's certainly OK to wax poetically about the ethereal qualities of your particular instrument, but just not at the expense of someone else's choice of uke. Just my 2 cents worth, and you know what they say, everyone is the world's greatest authority on their own opinion. :D

Stevelele
04-14-2013, 10:46 AM
While we're at it, I would love a custom uke section, too. although i suppose that might not be as popular

BlackBearUkes
04-14-2013, 11:24 AM
I would suggest that a VIntage uke be considered as one 50 years or older.

hmgberg
04-14-2013, 11:50 AM
I would suggest that a VIntage uke be considered as one 50 years or older.

This is what I thought was the rule of thumb. I don't think, as has been said, that anything is etched in stone, but dealers in antiques I know use vintage to refer to items 50-99 years old, and antique to refer to items older than 100 years.

In general, people use the word "vintage" to cite a date of production, rather than to specify an age range. What I mean is people will say about a wine, "vintage 1974, " for example. I don't know how it came about that the word is used otherwise. You can think about it to mean an age range, or as a term to distinguish the item in question from a more contemporary version, e.g., vintage Kamaka soprano vs. a contemporary HF-1. It's kind of a messy word now as there is no fixed definition for its use in the way we propose to use it. This is why we should probably not hold anyone's feet to the fire about their use of the word. Alternatively, we could use the term in the way it is to describe wine, "vintage 1950s," or the like.

Roselynne
04-14-2013, 06:17 PM
Great idea! Just hope we don't get too picky about dates. It's great that we're having this discussion already!

A custom uke subforum would be great, too ... even if I never get a qualifying uke. I like to drool.

Nicko
04-15-2013, 01:53 AM
Great idea!

Some earmarks of a vintage instrument:

- it was found in the back of a closet and no one remembers how it got there
- it was made before the person who taught you to play learned to play
- it's been owned by three or more people
- sporting original wooden tuning pegs
- old timey higher-than-contemporary-taste-would-allow action
- decal on headstock is at least 15% worn off
- frets are pressed directly into the neck instead of a fretboard glued to the neck
- that kid at the uke club with the pyrotechnic licks wouldn't be caught dead playing this piece of junk
- original case that it comes in has rusty buckles, dry rotted leather straps, and musty smell
- made before Jake was born
- you bought it knowing it would need a trip to a luthier to make it playable
- it was handed down from someone in the family who passed away recently (or not so recently)
- when you show it to someone you always mention its age
- uke players come to see it from miles around and talk about the last time they saw one like that

gitarzan
04-15-2013, 02:05 AM
I personally meet several of those criteria! :old:

NewKid
04-15-2013, 02:25 AM
Let's call this new section "This Old Uke"

dhoenisch
04-15-2013, 03:22 AM
I would love that. Being someone who prefers vintage ukes over newer, I would be all over that section.

Dan

MojoUke
04-15-2013, 03:55 AM
Bring it on! I have always thought that a vintage section was the missing ingredient to this already cool forum. Let's make it waaay cool.