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igorthebarbarian
07-03-2013, 09:12 PM
I just tried putting some new Worth Clears on an old Harmony Baritone and yuck. It has a super-floppy D string. I do not like the feel of it. I mean, I like low action/low tension, but sheeesh...

I love Worth Clears in general, but not in baritone. In looking on here, it sounds like they had to increase the size of the string to make it hit that low D sound. And since they're Clears, they had to be fluorocarbon, which I generally prefer, but it feels goofy on this size.

I had a cheap set of Martin M630's on before and those were nice, even though they had wound D & G strings which wore out quick. As a bonus, the Martin M630 baritone strings are really quite cheap on Amazon at $4.56, which is great value.

Seeing that Worths cost $16.30 on elderly (granted you do get two sets) but they're quite the premium vs. the Martin M630's.

Given the "value" consideration, do you have any other baritone string suggestions?

Patrick Madsen
07-03-2013, 09:43 PM
I have three baritones. I tried many sets for my Favilla, Flurocarbons, Ko'olau Golds, Living Waters etc. It never really sounded right til I put on a set of wound nylon strings which brought back that smokey, bluesy sound of a vintage Favilla.

I'm on the same quest you are; finding a good string for the baris. Right now I have the Ko'olau Golds on my Webber, they sound a bit bright. It's a Koa/Spruce top so that may be the reason. Mike at hMS suggested trying Worth Browns for the 1&2 string with wound Hilos for the 3&4 for my Martin. I like the thicker string and they seem to be the ones for the Martin. the Worths were really expensive considering I just used the 1&2.

I'm finding my vintage baris prefer a nylon string while my newer Webber prefers the flurocarbons. Both the vintage ones are Mahogany so I wonder if that has anything to do with it. I think a wound D string has more tension that a non-wound making it less floppy. I may be wrong but that's the impression I get.

Jim Hanks
07-04-2013, 01:28 AM
I like Living Waters on my Bruko bari. I have a "custom" set which I think is really a low G tenor set. I have it tuned to Linear A tuning, so two semitones above normal DGBE. If you're really floppy at normal tuning, you could try going up a semitone or two and see if you like that. I'm guessing an old Harmony has 19" scale like the Bruko so your mileage may be similar to mine

kissing
07-04-2013, 02:01 AM
I've tried many baritone strings,,, so far my favourite is Ko'olau Alohi.
It's the only baritone strings that I find has the ideal tension, thickness and tone.

It will feel heavier than the Worth's.

mm stan
07-04-2013, 02:18 AM
My vintage harmony came alive and sounded great with a red package GHS strings....

jackwhale
07-04-2013, 05:02 AM
After trying 4-5 different brands, I'm back with Worth clears plus a guitar wound 4th string. I've not found an unwound 4th that isn't floppy and muddy.
I prefer them on my old Martin as well as my recently made Graziano and Mya Moe.
I'm glad there is a wide variety in strings. We're all looking for a different sound I think.

UkeKiddinMe
07-04-2013, 05:50 AM
What about Aquila Nylguts? They feel and sound great on my baritone.

strumsilly
07-04-2013, 06:52 AM
I've tried many baritone strings,,, so far my favourite is Ko'olau Alohi.
It's the only baritone strings that I find has the ideal tension, thickness and tone.

It will feel heavier than the Worth's.
I like these too. lots of options too. I just ordered 2 sets with the 2 wound bases from HMS, one tenor and one bari., only about a buck for shipping too. I have heard these are made by Diaddorio and are the same as the titanium, just slightly diff diameters. great strings at a great price.

v30
07-04-2013, 07:26 AM
I like the sound of the martin 630's but its ridiculous how fast the 2 wounds wear out. I seems after only 2 or 3 sessions they are leaving metal dust on my fretboard.

itsme
07-04-2013, 07:40 AM
I really like Worth Browns on my tenors. Put some on my Ohana BK-20 and hated them for the floppiness.

Put on some Ko'olau Golds and they're much better. Still have a couple other sets to try, but I'm not one who enjoys string changing so these will stay on for now.

GaryC1968
07-04-2013, 11:35 AM
I've tried many baritone strings,,, so far my favourite is Ko'olau Alohi.
It's the only baritone strings that I find has the ideal tension, thickness and tone.

It will feel heavier than the Worth's.

I had Southcoast Light Guage Linear strings (GCEA) and like them very much. I decided today to go back to DGBE tuning and put on some Worth Clears. The D string was WAY too loose. Then I put on some Ko'olau Golds and am liking them so far.

PhilUSAFRet
07-04-2013, 01:57 PM
Southcoasts or Guadalupe fiber core's. With either each string is chosen for optimal tension for a given scale length, not just lengthened generics

igorthebarbarian
07-04-2013, 06:41 PM
Wow, thanks for all of the advice. I laugh that nearly everyone recommended a completely different set of strings from each other!

Anyway, after posting this originally last night, I "wound" up (pun intended!) using an extra "D" wound string from a D'addario regular acoustic guitar EJ-16 set, which is basically what jackwhale suggested above, and that sounds pretty good.

There are almost too many options! There is UAS, but then there is also some sort of string-neurosis-syndrome, in continually tinkering and trying to find the perfect set for each uke.

kissing
07-05-2013, 02:40 AM
What about Aquila Nylguts? They feel and sound great on my baritone.

I find that Aquila baritones only work (at least according to my experience) on ukes with a high-action.
On a uke that is professionally setup with a low action, the tension is way too low, and I really dislike the thin and floppy feel.

The tension of Aquila nylguts is really good on soprano, concert and tenor... but I feel that the baritone is too loose.
At least on ukes with a comfortably low setup.
On a cheap factory uke with a high setup, it works OK.

quiltingshirley
07-05-2013, 06:34 AM
I've found this discussion interesting. I have a Pono Baritone that's been strung with the strings Mim sends out. I've been so happy with it that it's about the only things I've been playing the last couple of months. This morning I went to take it down to use at a Senior Center and the D string has come apart at the bridge. The metal core is the only thing still attached. Okay, I can take my Kamaka and try to remember where to put my fingers, but now I need to replace what I had or something stronger. I really liked having the D & G wound. (Our local shop is closed cause of the Holiday so I do have a day to think about what to get. I pluck down on the D string every other strum down so that might have made it fray sooner? Thanks.

itsme
07-05-2013, 07:42 AM
...the D string has come apart at the bridge. The metal core is the only thing still attached... now I need to replace what I had or something stronger. I really liked having the D & G wound. (Our local shop is closed cause of the Holiday so I do have a day to think about what to get. I pluck down on the D string every other strum down so that might have made it fray sooner?
Wound strings simply do not last as long as plain strings. On classical guitar, I typically go thru 3 sets of (wound) basses for every set of (plain) trebles.

Fraying at the saddle is common because there is more tension at that point.

Tsani
07-05-2013, 07:53 AM
I have Living Waters on my Favilla Baritone, and I love them - but I am probably going for a different sound. I mostly play classical on bari, so I am not looking for a "bluesy" sound.

Raygf
07-05-2013, 08:09 AM
I have tries several sets on my LoPrinzi model B mahogany baritone. The Martins are fine, but the wound strings wear too quickly for me. I have a set of Living Water Low D on it now. The low D is too large for the nut slot and I didn't want to commit to them yet, so I took a wound low D from a set of Martin 630s. It came strung with Southcoast linear GCEA strings from another UU member and they sounded nice too, but I want a low D. Think I'll try the Ko'olau Alohi. The experiment continues.

strumsilly
07-10-2013, 05:38 AM
I have tries several sets on my LoPrinzi model B mahogany baritone. The Martins are fine, but the wound strings wear too quickly for me. I have a set of Living Water Low D on it now. The low D is too large for the nut slot and I didn't want to commit to them yet, so I took a wound low D from a set of Martin 630s. It came strung with Southcoast linear GCEA strings from another UU member and they sounded nice too, but I want a low D. Think I'll try the Ko'olau Alohi. The experiment continues.
just put the tenor set of Alohi w/ 2 wounds on my MP. I still settling in, but the tension felt high so I drop tuned it and I like it better.

Jon Moody
07-10-2013, 06:27 AM
Can't speak on when they'll get packaged (we just finished up the tension), but the new GHS baritone set (which is a mix of wound and fluoro strings) is really nice. I've been playing my bari at home quite regularly, and they're holding up well, and sound very nice. They let the instrument speak, and are a nice tension.

bariukish
07-10-2013, 06:52 AM
My wife and I own several baris with solid wood construction and have tried several string brands. We favor the "guitar like" sound of the wound 3rd and 4th strings and tune DGBE. To us it's a toss up between D'Addario titanium and Ko'olau gold. Both wear very well for us and sound great on all our instruments. Depends on how you tune and what sound you're looking for.

Captain Simian
07-10-2013, 09:59 AM
I recently got a tenor uke with a set of Southcoast strings with a low G. The G&C strings are both flatwound and I flipped out over the sound and feel of them. I was all set to order a set for my bari but was thoroughly confused by the different recommended tunings for various gauges. I emailed them to ask what they would recommend for DGBE tuning and the response I was given was to check out this page on their site:

http://www.southcoastukes.com/004.htm

13down
07-13-2013, 04:44 AM
Several things to add:

1) If anyone is curious, D'addario titaniums and Koolau alohis are 99% the same. D'addario manufactures the Koolau alohis. I've tried both on the same uke to compare and all I noticed was that the wound alohis felt a tiny, tiny bit thicker. I imagine that Koolau specified the greater thickness.

2) Worth Clears are a tough one to figure out. I love the elasticity but the low tension is hard to get used to. I'm trying to give them a chance, as I like the sound.

3) I tried Living Water baritone low D's a while ago. I switched them out because the low tension felt weird to me and I wanted to get back to something familiar. I should have kept the strings and spooled them back up again, because they probably would last forever. But I didn't. So next time I wanted to give low D fluorocarbons a try, I bought Worth Clears. It's been a couple of months since I tried the Living Waters, but I could swear that the Clears and LWs feel the same. If anything, the B and E strings on the Living Waters might have had a bit more tension.

4) GHS strings are underrated. They're not great, but they're underrated. Especially if you want a more guitar-like sound for the baritone, as they're the only (to my knowledge) bronzewound bari strings out there.

5) Aquilas are cool except for the fact that the wounds (like the Martin wounds) are prone to unravel. They're also squeaky. D'addario Proartes are a good alternative- the plain strings are Aquila nylguts, but the wounds are made by D'addario (hence they stay together and lack the squeakiness that the Aquila wounds are sometimes prone to).

fromthee2me
07-13-2013, 09:48 PM
Interesting comments and results. I went the "mix and match" way. For my Bruko Bari I used 2 sets of Aquilas (DGBE +GCEA) . I took the 3 strings of the GCEA set being CEA, and the Red G out of the DGBE set. It works. The other Aquila wound string does squeek and I suppose I'm not used to that. I have not had one unravel on me.

kissing
07-14-2013, 12:54 AM
5) Aquilas are cool except for the fact that the wounds (like the Martin wounds) are prone to unravel. They're also squeaky. D'addario Proartes are a good alternative- the plain strings are Aquila nylguts, but the wounds are made by D'addario (hence they stay together and lack the squeakiness that the Aquila wounds are sometimes prone to).

I've looked and I looked and have not found a "D'addario Pro-Arte Baritone" set in existence.
There are Pro-Arte concert and tenor strings, Pro-Arte classical guitar strings, and there are simply D'addario plain nylon baritone strings.. but no Pro-Arte Baritone strings.
If it exists, please show me...

13down
07-14-2013, 03:20 AM
Kissing, you're right!

I must have confused Nyltech and Pro Arte. The dude at the music store, when he told me "we're sold out of baritone pro artes" was probably making the same mistake.

I'm pretty sure the D'addario Nyltechs have white nylon strings that are reminiscent of the Aquila nylguts. In any case, they're still good strings... but thanks for the correction, K!

kissing
07-14-2013, 03:31 AM
You got my hopes up.. it's because I really like Pro-Artes >_<
Nyltech are a nice warm sounding string nevertheless.