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camperman
10-25-2013, 02:00 AM
I've always enjoyed playing my baritone uke. Still do :) And my next purchase was going to be an upgrade to a nice electro acoustic baritone but things have changed since my last purchase.
You see my last purchase was a 6 string tenor and I absolutely love it.
So now I want a 6 string baritone. The only ones I've seen so far are the Bruce Wei ones.
Does anyone else own or has tried a 6 string baritone?

anthonyg
10-25-2013, 02:04 AM
I've just bought one of Bruce wei's 8 string baritones. I couldn't resist anymore although its still to be shipped. For what its worth it LOOKS to be exceptionally well built although I will have to wait until I have it in my hands.

Here's a video of a MELE 8 string baritone ukulele. Better instrument no doubt and it sounds fantastic,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqC2vqq_ilE

Anthony

camperman
10-25-2013, 07:22 AM
I've just bought one of Bruce wei's 8 string baritones. I couldn't resist anymore although its still to be shipped. For what its worth it LOOKS to be exceptionally well built although I will have to wait until I have it in my hands.

Here's a video of a MELE 8 string baritone ukulele. Better instrument no doubt and it sounds fantastic,


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqC2vqq_ilE

Anthony

8 string :) Now there's a thought :)

mds725
10-25-2013, 08:30 AM
I have this (http://www.myamoeukuleles.com/uketracker.php?trackingNumber=1013) Mya-Moe 6 string mahogany baritone. Aaron made a sound sample of it here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPXUWlXiyos

I also have an 8-string Kamaka baritone and an 8-string long-neck Mele tenor tuned as an 8-string baritone. As with 6-string and 8-string tenors, 6-string and 8-string baritones have slightly different sounds. My 8-string baritones have a fuller and somewhat "twangier" sound, which I attribute to the double B and E strings. The 6-string sounds less full but richer, which I attribute to there being a low E string paired with a regular E string.

I've never had or played a Bruce Wei ukulele. Most of the popular manufacturers don't seem to make 6-string baritones. Mya-Moe appears to be an exception, and you might be able to find a Mele or Pono 6-string baritone, but if you've already found a Bruce Wei 6-string baritone, that may be the best way to go..

iamesperambient
10-25-2013, 08:52 AM
I've always enjoyed playing my baritone uke. Still do :) And my next purchase was going to be an upgrade to a nice electro acoustic baritone but things have changed since my last purchase.
You see my last purchase was a 6 string tenor and I absolutely love it.
So now I want a 6 string baritone. The only ones I've seen so far are the Bruce Wei ones.
Does anyone else own or has tried a 6 string baritone?

baritone ukulele is my new obsession. both of those six and 8 string ones sound beautiful if you get one or the other or each make sure you post a video :)

OldePhart
10-25-2013, 09:08 AM
I have a six string baritone made by Taylor...oh, wait, that's a guitar...

iamesperambient
10-25-2013, 09:25 AM
I have a six string baritone made by Taylor...oh, wait, that's a guitar...

well their not tuned like a guitar its tuned in courses
so its not even anything close to a guitar. A lot of people
think because of the tuning a baritone uke is gonna sound
like a guitar, it really doesn't it has its own unique warm sound
that in my opinion is much more pleasant and mellow than a guitar
and less bright and punchy than soprano or concert or even tenor ukes.

mds725
10-25-2013, 10:06 AM
well their not tuned like a guitar its tuned in courses
so its not even anything close to a guitar. A lot of people
think because of the tuning a baritone uke is gonna sound
like a guitar, it really doesn't it has its own unique warm sound
that in my opinion is much more pleasant and mellow than a guitar
and less bright and punchy than soprano or concert or even tenor ukes.

I agree that a baritone ukulele has its own sound. It even sounds different from a tenor guitar (4 strings) that's been tuned DGBE, like a baritone ukulele or the top four strings of a conventional guitar. I think John was joking about the guitar reference, though. :)

Back to our regularly-scheduled programming.

iamesperambient
10-25-2013, 03:35 PM
I agree that a baritone ukulele has its own sound. It even sounds different from a tenor guitar (4 strings) that's been tuned DGBE, like a baritone ukulele or the top four strings of a conventional guitar. I think John was joking about the guitar reference, though. :)

Back to our regularly-scheduled programming.

I would say if anything the guitarele is more or less a small guitar (but still pretty cool)

TheCraftedCow
10-25-2013, 11:56 PM
why would you want a baritone? How is your tenor strung? ADGCEA? I just got my Eddy Finn 6 string tenor today. It is Aquila strung EADGBE. My wife was a music teacher who carried her guitar for classroom accompaniment .Her comment about it was favorable for both looks and sound. She no longer plays, is why she did not comment on that part of it. Check out Giannini of Brazil.

Another "baritone " experience is an Dd or dD GgG BbB eE or EE strung tiple.
In addition to my two Giannini baritones dGBE and dGBe (thank you Dirk!) there is a Martin T-18 and a Yasuma all mahogany...both tuned low

ichadwick
10-26-2013, 02:30 AM
why would you want a baritone?

Geez, obviously you haven't played one... or maybe your UAS is in remission...

I love the baritone, although I play tenors a bit more. Sound, size, depth of tone... and all this talk of an eight-string version has me salivating. I'd like to get a steel-string bari, as well.

ralphk
10-26-2013, 04:38 AM
Kimo Hussey has a great 6 string baritone, with the two lower tone strings paired. That string arrangement would be one I would like to have, probably better than a 5 string alternative.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHKoOHG-Ngw

iamesperambient
10-26-2013, 04:57 AM
Geez, obviously you haven't played one... or maybe your UAS is in remission...

I love the baritone, although I play tenors a bit more. Sound, size, depth of tone... and all this talk of an eight-string version has me salivating. I'd like to get a steel-string bari, as well.

for steel string the konablaster solid body electric baritone uke is a perfect choice.

mds725
10-26-2013, 07:01 AM
why would you want a baritone? How is your tenor strung? ADGCEA? I just got my Eddy Finn 6 string tenor today. It is Aquila strung EADGBE......

I wonder if you're confusing a six-string baritone with a guitarlele. A six string baritone has only four courses of strings, two of which are paired in octaves, so it's tuned D-gG-B-Ee, or D-Gg-B-Ee, or some other combination of higher and lower G and E strings. A 6 string baritone would not be tuned ADGCEA or EADGBE, as it only has four courses of strings, not six. (Aaron talks about this in the Mya-Moe demo video I posted earlier in this thread. .) Depending on the scale, an instrument tuned like that would be a guitarlele or a small guitar.

TheCraftedCow
10-27-2013, 09:04 PM
Yes, I know of the four course with two doubles and two singles being called a six string what ever size it is. EF sells theirs as a six string tenor...and it does have six strings. Chord soloing or picking individual notes is not a pleasant sound with singles and doubles mixed. A full course of doubles with octaves provides a consistent sound. Currently I have two solid mahogany baritones from the 70's by Giannini.

grendel1972
10-28-2013, 05:44 AM
Chord soloing or picking individual notes is not a pleasant sound with singles and doubles mixed. A full course of doubles with octaves provides a consistent sound.

To each their own, but I think it sounds great.

prooftheory
10-28-2013, 05:47 AM
To each their own, but I think it sounds great.

I agree with this.

OldePhart
10-28-2013, 06:50 AM
I think John was joking about the guitar reference, though. :)


Yep, folks who know me well know I haven't a serious bone in my body. I also own a couple of baritones. :)

John

notgeorgeformby
10-29-2013, 04:28 AM
I've just bought one of Bruce wei's 8 string baritones.

Is it this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-STRING-Solid-Walnut-Baritone-Ukulele-Aquila-String-Mop-Inlay-UG19-080-/171161004844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d9fdab2c)?

jcarlos
10-29-2013, 10:31 AM
Is it this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-STRING-Solid-Walnut-Baritone-Ukulele-Aquila-String-Mop-Inlay-UG19-080-/171161004844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d9fdab2c)?

I bought one of those recently too, it should be here in 2-3 weeks, I can post some videos of it when I get it.
I have a rare 8 string tenor guitar with Maestro on the headstock. I dont know if its the same as Gibson's Maestro brand though. I found it on craigslist. Some people say its a mandocello, but it came strung like a 12 string guitar without the bass strings. I'll post a sample of it shortly.

notgeorgeformby
10-29-2013, 10:38 AM
I bought one of those recently too, it should be here in 2-3 weeks, I can post some videos of it when I get it.


Please do. I'm very curious about it.

anthonyg
10-29-2013, 11:45 AM
Is it this one (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/8-STRING-Solid-Walnut-Baritone-Ukulele-Aquila-String-Mop-Inlay-UG19-080-/171161004844?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27d9fdab2c)?

I bought one of the four he initially listed just like this one. They all sold. There is one more currently listed. If they all keep on selling he may keep on listing them but they aren't a regular line from Brucewei. Its kind of normal for Brucewei's special designs to be no longer listed by the time the first ones sold arrive with the buyers. I managed to NOT buy one last time he listed them buy couldn't resist anymore.

Anthony

jcarlos
10-29-2013, 11:52 AM
Yea I will, here is the 8 string tenor guitar, to give an idea of what a paired steel string would sound like.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHELSuQDgFE&feature=youtu.be

jcarlos
10-29-2013, 11:55 AM
I bought one of the four he initially listed just like this one. They all sold. There is one more currently listed. If they all keep on selling he may keep on listing them but they aren't a regular line from Brucewei. Its kind of normal for Brucewei's special designs to be no longer listed by the time the fist ones sold arrive with the buyers. I managed to NOT buy one last time he listed them buy couldn't resist anymore.

Anthony

Same here, I just bought a new guitar as well, but these 8 string baris are gonna be rare so I had to grab one.

jcarlos
11-04-2013, 04:08 PM
Well my 8 string came in and Im a bit disappointed, bad strings, strings hit each other, fret buzz and a crack :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NzsqmfJL10&feature=youtu.be

I am going to mess around with the tuning to try and get the tension correct but that's not really a proper fix...its always a gamble when ordering instruments online, you win sometimes and lose sometimes, contacted Bruce Wei already, gonna see what he says before I consider this a loss :/

icuker
11-04-2013, 04:27 PM
Sorry to hear about the problems. I have always wondered about the quality of those instruments. Thanks for the review.

anthonyg
11-04-2013, 08:47 PM
My Brucewei 8 string baritone arrived today as well. Mine arrived in good shape. I think that Carlos's instrument has suffered from impact damage in transit. Mind you I wish brucewei sent his ukulele's in hard cases like Taisamlu. Too much trouble otherwise. The string spacing on mine is a little close to. I expect to need another nut at some point. The strings on mine are fine.

I expect mine is going to be a GREAT instrument in time and I will spend a little money on it. Its cheap. I expect to spend a little money on cheap instruments to make them great. It has a great warm tone already.

Also, these 8 string baritones have adjustable truss rods. Loosen them off and let the neck come up a little. The trouble I sometimes have with these instrument is that the neck pulls back. Let the neck come up for a while and it it does start to come up too much then tighten the truss rod to bring it back down a little.

Anthony

notgeorgeformby
11-05-2013, 04:16 AM
Well my 8 string came in and Im a bit disappointed, bad strings, strings hit each other, fret buzz and a crack :/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NzsqmfJL10&feature=youtu.be

I am going to mess around with the tuning to try and get the tension correct but that's not really a proper fix...its always a gamble when ordering instruments online, you win sometimes and lose sometimes, contacted Bruce Wei already, gonna see what he says before I consider this a loss :/

Sorry to hear this, Carlos. But thanks so much for posting your review, it's very helpful.

Would it be possible to fill the crack before it gets worse? And why are the string tension so loose, do you think?

jcarlos
11-05-2013, 10:45 AM
Sorry to hear this, Carlos. But thanks so much for posting your review, it's very helpful.

Would it be possible to fill the crack before it gets worse? And why are the string tension so loose, do you think?

Yea, Im still bummed out and waiting to see what Bruce says, I also discovered another crack on the back of the body :/. There really wasnt any kind of support in terms of shipping, the uke was wrapped in 1 layer of the soft white paper that comes with new instruments, dont know what its called. But aside from that, no foam/ no peanuts/ nor bubble wrap to protect it from moving inside the box. If the cracks developed from mis-handling I dont know a thing about how to repair them. My local shop will do it, but it will cost as much as the instrument itself :/, and then there isn't a guarantee that it wont continue to crack and then need more work done later on.

The strings are very loose because they're the wrong strings, the basic aquila 8 string dgbe set is meant for a 20" scale instrument, Bruce makes his baritones at 19" scale, so I was hoping that he would have chosen the correct strings for the scale he uses. If this instrument was a 4 string , it wouldn't be such a big deal, because I could find strings with the correct tension and make a solid DGBE, but its a special case where 19" dDgGBBEE would be hard to find, making me mix and match strings to find the proper tension. The wound strings are the more problematic ones. This is where I feel this instrument needs work, the wound strings need more room to vibrate, and as it stands there isnt enough space for that to happen.

I don't agree with the idea that its a "cheap fixer upper" instrument, I've ordered from Bruce before and those instruments were very well made and required zero modifications from me to make them playable and enjoyable. I'm guessing that they are still sorting out how to make 8 strings. Ill keep you posted on what happens.

anthonyg
11-05-2013, 10:46 AM
The string tension is loose because its a 19" scale instrument. I have a couple of 19" baritones already and I like them. The loose tension is just being exacerbated in this case by the LOW action (there is a reason why its good to have a highish action on new instruments) and yes, the double string spacing is a fraction close.

Mele ukulele makes and sells some 19" scale baritones and with the right strings you can either set them up DGBE or GCEA.

Anthony

Flyinby
11-05-2013, 03:22 PM
I don't agree with the idea that its a "cheap fixer upper" instrument, I've ordered from Bruce before and those instruments were very well made and required zero modifications from me to make them playable and enjoyable. I'm guessing that they are still sorting out how to make 8 strings. Ill keep you posted on what happens.

I view them as "gambler's specials". A bit over a year ago, I bought 3 Bruce Wei ukes over a couple of months...a mahogany, an acacia/koa cutaway, and a bell. The first one arrived with a scratch, which sort of surprised me, as it was definitely not from transport. Within about 3 months it had developed a wavy top, and needed fret leveling, which I did. it continues to play well and hasn't deteriorated further. The second, the cutaway koa, developed a high spot at the neck/body joint, to where anything fingered above the 10th fret would play the 15th fret. It took a lot of grinding on the frets, but I was able to get it OK after a couple of tries, and it continues to be OK. The Bell (tenor) developed a twisted neck, after about a month, however we did take it on a trip, and it was in the car in a gig bag crossing the desert (not left in a hot car, but nevertheless dry air), so I really don't know if the uke or the conditions were to blame.

Those were all 'free shipping' ukes from before the high shipping charges. Recently a friend wanted to take a chance on a nice solid wood mahogany uke that no one had bid on, so we got it, knowing the potential as a 'fixer upper'. It arrived with a split seam about an inch long on the back (not from transport), and on further examination I saw that the neck was twisted...not too severely, but enough to make it a wall hanger or beater uke. Bruce refunded most of the money as I requested, and I'm going to fix it, but I really don't see how all these problems are just things that happened. I've ordered many ukes made in all sorts of places, and they're solid and straight, and stay that way, but as much as I think Bruce makes nice looking ukes and is an honest guy that will stand behind any issues, they are definitely gambler's special, and if you can't fix your own, I strongly recommend not ordering them, no matter how nice the price seems.

Richard0024
05-01-2019, 01:25 PM
I have this (http://www.myamoeukuleles.com/uketracker.php?trackingNumber=1013) Mya-Moe 6 string mahogany baritone. Aaron made a sound sample of it here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPXUWlXiyos

I also have an 8-string Kamaka baritone and an 8-string long-neck Mele tenor tuned as an 8-string baritone. As with 6-string and 8-string tenors, 6-string and 8-string baritones have slightly different sounds. My 8-string baritones have a fuller and somewhat "twangier" sound, which I attribute to the double B and E strings. The 6-string sounds less full but richer, which I attribute to there being a low E string paired with a regular E string.

I've never had or played a Bruce Wei ukulele. Most of the popular manufacturers don't seem to make 6-string baritones. Mya-Moe appears to be an exception, and you might be able to find a Mele or Pono 6-string baritone, but if you've already found a Bruce Wei 6-string baritone, that may be the best way to go..

How wide is the nut? What are the string spacings between all strings across the nut? I'm trying to do the same thing with a baritone I'm building. Thanks!