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Gary Gill
12-31-2013, 12:03 AM
I have created a problem here. The body is quarter sawn cherry and the binding is quarter sawn maple. From the photos you can see the maple binding not completely seated about an inch & a half shy of the butt joint. I used Locite brand super glue as the adhesive. I applied the glue from the top side only in this area. Would you suggest?

1) Use a heat gun on the binding and expect the glue to loosen? Then re-position and glue in proper position.
2) Should I make a tapered strip of maple and fill the gap?
3) Rout the binding off and start again?

I appreciate the advice. This is my twelfth ukulele but only second attempt at binding.
Thanks
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Timbuck
12-31-2013, 01:18 AM
I'd pick option number 3 .."Practice makes perfect" :) and all that malarkey.

I've tried to heat and push binding gaps into place..never worked well for me :(

mzuch
12-31-2013, 02:32 AM
I'd use a pipette to squirt some acetone into the gap to loosen the binding in that area. The CA should let go and the binding should separate from the body cleanly with a light tug. Let dry thoroughly, reglue, and install a tail graft to hide the gap between binding strips.

Gary Gill
12-31-2013, 02:47 AM
I like that idea. The gap disappears when I cut the neck dovetail.

Gary Gill
12-31-2013, 03:36 AM
Acetone worked. I have peeled back to where it fits rights. I plan to clean up the residue and carry on. Thanks for the help.

Timbuck
12-31-2013, 04:44 AM
Lucky the binding was Maple..if it had been plastic the acetone would have melted it:)

Beau Hannam Ukuleles
12-31-2013, 04:49 AM
I would suggest starting at the butt next time

Gary Gill
12-31-2013, 04:57 AM
I would suggest starting at the butt next time
I started at the endgraft. Is that what you mean by butt?

thistle3585
12-31-2013, 05:41 AM
Gary,
I'd suggest using one piece of binding next time. I got some great curly maple from David awhile back and could cut you some long pieces of binding.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
12-31-2013, 06:25 AM
When using ca for binding, don't go immediately flooding the joint with glue. I recommend to "spot tack" the binding with a drop of medium ca every couple of inches (think of spot welding). When you are happy with the joinery of all your binding strips then you can wick in thin ca for good penetration. That way you can easily reverse any mistakes you may have overlooked.

RichM
12-31-2013, 06:36 AM
I would suggest starting at the butt next time

Tried that, and got slapped.

Beau Hannam Ukuleles
12-31-2013, 11:29 AM
I started at the endgraft. Is that what you mean by butt?

Yep. tis tricky stuff :)

Gary Gill
12-31-2013, 11:53 AM
I am finding the residue after loosening the super glue is mess. I will rout it off as originally suggested by Ken and start again. I used two pieces for the binding so I could bend it with my side bender. How do you folks bend maple for binding?

Andrew- I received my maple from David as well. Very nice material.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
12-31-2013, 12:01 PM
Maple is fairly easy to bend. Binding is usually installed in two pieces and most of us use the side bender to bend them, so you did fine. You were also well advised by Ken to re-route the channel and begin again. As you've found out, working with ca isn't for the faint hearted and light colored woods are very unforgiving.

Gary Gill
12-31-2013, 12:16 PM
I really appreciate the advice.

Timbuck
12-31-2013, 12:33 PM
Also beware !!!!....I've found when a build starts to go wrong like this..it seems to go even further adrift later on....and it eventually ends up on the fire:mad:.....As Chuck once said "ukes behave like children" and now and again you get a naughty one.:) ..Good luck and a Happy New Year.

Peterjens
12-31-2013, 12:57 PM
Ignorance isn't bliss - what is CA?
Thanks.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
12-31-2013, 01:21 PM
Also beware !!!!....I've found when a build starts to go wrong like this..it seems to go even further adrift later on....and it eventually ends up on the fire:mad:.....As Chuck once said "ukes behave like children" and now and again you get a naughty one.:) ..Good luck and a Happy New Year.

So true. And you often know as soon as they are conceived. When I get off to a bad start with an uke I'll put it aside and begin again. Can't really do that with kids though I guess.
BTW, Ken, I'm missing the Winter pics this year.

Moore Bettah Ukuleles
12-31-2013, 01:25 PM
Ignorance isn't bliss - what is CA?
Thanks.

Sorry, I often take short cuts with words I can neither pronounce nor spell. CA glue is glue sold only for use in California. ;)
No, seriously, Ca glue is Cyanoacrylate aka super glue, Krazy glue, etc. It comes in various viscosities, even different colors, and is usually used with an accelerant. Some are better than others. I get mine from CPH International.

resoman
12-31-2013, 01:41 PM
Sorry, I often take short cuts with words I can neither pronounce nor spell. CA glue is glue sold only for use in California. ;)
No, seriously, Ca glue is Cyanoacrylate aka super glue, Krazy glue, etc. It comes in various viscosities, even different colors, and is usually used with an accelerant. Some are better than others. I get mine from CPH International.

Now that is funny!
You can't even get a good gas can in California anymore.....BUT you can still get CA glue

Timbuck
12-31-2013, 10:09 PM
BTW, Ken, I'm missing the Winter pics this year.

We havn't had a proper winter yet! Chuck....Quite mild for this time of year..Lots of rain and wind...a bit of frost but so far "No Snow".....But there is plenty of time for the white stuff to arrive.:)

Harold O.
01-02-2014, 02:53 PM
Now that is funny!
You can't even get a good gas can in California anymore.....BUT you can still get CA glue

A metal worker I know makes lots of barstools and uses industrial adhesive by the gallon. Has been for years. The "Great State of California" decided last year to outlaw five-gallon container sales of this adhesive. The adhesive itself hasn't been outlawed, only the large containers. So he now buys by the quart. Many, many quarts.