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toddir58
02-05-2014, 10:55 AM
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ABSOLUTELY STUNNING ALL KOA UKE...WITH GREEN AND GOLD ABALONE INLAYS....BOOK MATCHED CUSTOM CONSTRUCTION,....QUALITY WORKMANSHIP THROUGHOUT......PLAYS AND SOUNDS AS GOOD AS IT LOOKS....NATURAL SOFT SATIN FINISH ONLY ENHANCES THE OVERALL APPEARANCE OF THIS UKE...ONE THAT YOU CAN BE GLAD TO SHOW TO OTHERS....CLOSED GEAR GROVER TUNERS..AQUILLA 7U STRINGS...AWESOME TONALITY...VERY CRISP CLEAN AND CLEAR SOUND...THE TENOR SIZE AND SOLID WOOD GIVE THIS UKE A HEFTY SOLID FEEL...GREAT ACTION ALL SET-UP AND READY TO PLAY !!!! SHIPS SAME DAY VIA USPS 1-3 DAY PRIORITY MAIL...SEE MY OTHER UKES...ALOHA,sorry ships to u.s. only

List Date: 2/5/2014

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sonomajazz
02-05-2014, 11:36 AM
Please, sir, no need to shout...:2cents:

toddir58
02-05-2014, 12:24 PM
i dont understand..are you trying to be funny or is this just your own sad way of trying to communicate ,this is a serious site and a valid entry..... i see no humor in your tiny,little insignificant post that probably describes you as a person.keep your 2 cents !!!!!

GinnyT11
02-05-2014, 12:37 PM
Todd, writing in all capitals is considered shouting in the world of forums and email.

toddir58
02-05-2014, 12:48 PM
perhaps if this was a chatty post,i agree100% but this is an information post,and thus written in a clear and definitive manner as to giving the viewer a complete and concise description,so that they can gain as much information as i have included...so as not to waste their and my time...as i was playing my uke !!!!

NoKaOi
02-05-2014, 12:52 PM
Ok, just popping by to spread a little aloha dust to the thread -- life is an inordinately short journey.. :shaka:

& I'll take the pennies, I got a 1mm thick StewMac rule - adding a penny creates my perfect 12th fret action (2.55mm ; )

Peace,
~NKO

anthonyg
02-05-2014, 01:40 PM
I quite like Alulu ukulele's as I have a few and the original seller, Taisamlu is an honest guy to deal with. I was a little bit suspicious about your listing however so I looked up Taisamlu's sales on eBay.

Taisamlu listed this instrument as Acacia Koa, NOT Koa. I consider this to be a serious breech in the listing on your behalf. Taisamlu also listed this instrument as a SECOND and you paid $140 US for it thereabouts with shipping.

People can buy and sell how they see fit but you have deliberately left out important information with YOUR listing. Taisamlu's original listing was honest.

Anthony

Flaky
02-05-2014, 01:50 PM
http://youtu.be/PMQkFTIX9ek

NoKaOi
02-05-2014, 02:52 PM
I was a little bit suspicious about your listing however so I looked up Taisamlu's sales on eBay.

Taisamlu listed this instrument as Acacia Koa, NOT Koa. I consider this to be a serious breech in the listing on your behalf. Taisamlu also listed this instrument as a SECOND and you paid $140 US for it thereabouts with shipping.

People can buy and sell how they see fit but you have deliberately left out important information with YOUR listing. Taisamlu's original listing was honest.

Anthony

Oops - perhaps this one? *sigh* this can't be good.. :wtf:

http://tinyurl.com/luy8ezg

toddir58
02-05-2014, 03:03 PM
thanks for the aloha dust,I might have responded a little to severely..as i am a very serious person with a wonderful uke to sell,and thought that i was posting to an advertising side page like panjo..and not just chatting away like a school girl on the uu website,as for the penny on the 12th fret I personally set-up a quarter on the 12th fret,i have have thick mechanics hands and thick fingers with a laborers grip and find the extra distance welcoming to my playing comfort.

toddir58
02-05-2014, 03:22 PM
Anthony ,taisamlu sells many ukes.... koa is koa is koa..acacia koa is grown in many places around the world...now if i had specified that this is made from hawaiian acacia koa..then you would have a valid point..but alas i listed the construction material as being koa,because i can not know what kind and from where the koa came from...as to price taisamlu starts bids at many prices,this one started above $140..and went much higher...and there are some listed at over $180 to start the bidding as well as the expensive overseas shipping costs and time (weeks)...the value of any well made instrument is in the final playability...and this is the 8th taisamlu uke that i own..and not all have been winners ,but this one is a winner ....otherwise i wouldn't burden the consumer with a less than honest uke ...any decent quality koa tenor uke that plays and looks as good as this is worth the price...that is why i am asking so much,but you should also notice that i have added a best offer selection box as well...does any of this seem relevant as an answer to your comment on koa and price !!!

Cornfield
02-05-2014, 05:04 PM
According to Wikipedia and a few other sites Acacia Koa is only grown in Hawaii. Other Acacia species are grown elsewhere. Is you uke made of solid Koa or some other species?
Please clarify.

toddir58
02-05-2014, 05:27 PM
according to the builder the pimary wood used on the front,back and sides is acacia koa..and if you look at the pics it resembles many of the hawaiian koa wood ukes ..don't confuse this pattern with the curly acacia koa that is used on many high end koa ukes..that has a much busier flame type of pattern,like some of the kanileas for instance.this wood looks to be slab cut and not cut on the bias ..also it is made of solid koa, the wood grain pattern on the inside mirrors the polished grain pattern on the outside, the head piece where the alulu inlay name is located is an additional laminate cap,the neck is koa 2 piece ,there is the normal heel joint,and a rosewood fretboard.I hope this helps aloha

toddir58
02-05-2014, 05:45 PM
john I just wanted to add a p.s. hawaiian koa wood is not commercially harvested and sold openly,there are huge restrictions to the harvest of a tree..those that are fortunate enough to get a piece usually have a whole log, and can therefore issue numbered cuts as kanilea does...see the aldrine guerro logo uke for $2500,log #50 i think....I have several koa trees growing on my property in the mountains,just about 20 yrs old,the curly acacia koa variety,the main trunks are a little over a foot wide now...I also have mango,milo,kou and kamani trees and one day each will give up there wood to make beautiful bowls,ukes and what ever else i carve ...stay warm in illinois,it is a balmy 79 degrees at 7 p.m.lucky i live in hawaii...aloha

anthonyg
02-05-2014, 06:55 PM
The wood grain on your listed ukulele is UNIQUE. There is one, and one only instrument like it. I identified it as an instrument which Taisamlu listed as a Second, made from Acacia Koa and it sold for $70 + shipping. Yes it is a bit cheeky of Taisamlu to list it as Acacia Koa but at least HE didn't call it Koa.

Taisamlu DOES sell instruments made from Hawaiian Koa. He lists them as Hawaiian Koa and they are higher quality instruments than you are listing. Taisamlu sells his Hawaiian Koa ukulele's for around $400 + shipping. The one you have listed would have sold, Buy It Now for around $200 if it was a FIRST quality instrument.

You have seriously misrepresented the instrument you have for sale. Disgraceful.

Anthony

toddir58
02-05-2014, 07:53 PM
I really dont know what your problem is ,but i have had this uke for close to 6 weeks now..taisamlu has many ,many ukes that are sold as koa and also acacia koa...i really doubt that you are looking at mine,especially since i paid a heck of a lot more than $70 I own 8 of their ukes Shame on you for your poor attempt at detective work..perhaps your problem is with taisamlu,maybe you have had a bad experience with them...i represent this uke as exactly as the manufacturer says it is the uke is made of koa (acacia koa) any more petty attempts to your misguided vanity will be responded to in a much less cordial manner,,A wise man says that the only thing worse than a lot of knowledge ..is having only a little knowledge...i dont know if you're mad at taisamlu for making ukes,or the koa tree that it was made from.

Kyle23
02-05-2014, 07:54 PM
Yeah that's the exact same one from that ebay auction. I mean I don't mind someone thinking they got a good deal on a uke and flipping it for more, but don't lie and say you bought it for much more than you actually did.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/o0zfih.jpg

toddir58
02-05-2014, 08:10 PM
P.S. I dont recall ever saying that this uke is hawaiian koa any where on the listing..So where am I misrepresenting the uke it is listed as koa wood construction with a( acacia koa ) added as per the manufacturers description.as you pointed out these ukes list in the $400 area for msrp, and that is how i got my pricing !!! Buy it , make an offer or criticize and complain the choices are yours and it looks like you chose the latter.

toddir58
02-05-2014, 08:13 PM
who says that i am the original buyer???

anthonyg
02-05-2014, 08:25 PM
There is still the issue of you buying it as a Second, blemished ukulele but making no such declaration in your listing.

You can buy the same series of ukulele's (I watch some of his listings so I'm familiar with the different model runs) from Taisamlu on eBay for $160 USD Buy it Now + shipping for a first quality instrument or he has some auctions for them starting at $130 USD

Taisamlu also has some beautiful tenor ukulele's with slotted headstocks that he has declared are made from Hawaiian Koa for $280 USD + shipping.

People can make money by reselling items if they can but I'm incensed by the deceit in this listing and follow up discussion.

Anthony

dav_9
02-05-2014, 08:26 PM
Just let the thread die. No one is going to buy this ukulele, especially after we laid out the evidence that he won this uke in an auction through ebay for probably $140. Moving on... or contact a moderator about this.

toddir58
02-05-2014, 08:47 PM
No where in any of the taisamlu descriptions did they once say that this is a factory second or that it is blemished in anyway as this was not listed by them ,i have no reason to doubt that. And this is everything that i used as info for the listing..it seems the problem is with taisamlu, All i have is this great looking and playing uke ...that no one needs to bid on,or ,pay ridiculously high postage for and wait for a few weeks...simple...i have 5 asst zebrawood ukes,2 spruce combos...one mahogany and one rosewood and this alulu all made/sold through taisamlu and in all of these uke descriptions did the words factory second..flawed etc. get mentioned.

anthonyg
02-05-2014, 08:59 PM
Here's the listing for the original sale via eBay Australia.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Alulu-Solid-Acacia-Koa-Tenor-Ukulele-hard-case-satin-polish-TUA17-/390743128540?_uhb=1&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item5afa1af9dc&nma=true&si=IHHmSQ9grU%252BgFLArm2ZFtwKJBng%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

Taisamlu declared in the description that there were some minor cosmetic faults (that's all it takes to be a second) and started the auction at $1.

Anthony

danersen
02-06-2014, 04:01 AM
Kyle,
This may well be the same uke, and these photos of the top suggest that, but the more definitive comparison is the book match on the back.
Be Well,
Dan


Yeah that's the exact same one from that ebay auction. I mean I don't mind someone thinking they got a good deal on a uke and flipping it for more, but don't lie and say you bought it for much more than you actually did.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/o0zfih.jpg

seeso
02-06-2014, 06:27 AM
As is UU policy, all purchases made via the Marketplace sub-forum are at the buyer's own risk. UU cannot declare the quality of an instrument nor the veracity of a seller to be legitimate.

However, we have good detectives here in the Marketplace. Smart people who do their due diligence and make convincing cases, such as the one you see above in this thread.


i dont understand..are you trying to be funny or is this just your own sad way of trying to communicate ,this is a serious site and a valid entry..... i see no humor in your tiny,little insignificant post that probably describes you as a person.keep your 2 cents !!!!!

toddir58, your posts following the one quoted above have refrained from using personal insults, so I will let this one slide with an infraction. Continuing to personally insult your fellow members in the manner quoted above may result in an account and IP address ban. To be blunt, change your attitude, if you want to stick around.

OldePhart
02-06-2014, 08:58 AM
Yeah that's the exact same one from that ebay auction. I mean I don't mind someone thinking they got a good deal on a uke and flipping it for more, but don't lie and say you bought it for much more than you actually did.

http://oi59.tinypic.com/o0zfih.jpg

The patterns in the purfling and rosette are even more telling. You might get very similar thin slices of wood from the same log but there is just no way that the patterns in strips of abalone are going to match anywhere near that well.

John

OldePhart
02-06-2014, 09:15 AM
I really dont know what your problem is ,but i have had this uke for close to 6 weeks now..taisamlu has many ,many ukes that are sold as koa and also acacia koa...i really doubt that you are looking at mine,especially since i paid a heck of a lot more than $70 ...

The previously referenced eBay auction tells another story on both counts. Sale closed on 1/15/2014 and it usually takes about a week to get stuff from this seller, so you've had it probably about 2 weeks. EDIT (forgot to add): Sale closed for $71 (plus $70 shipping).

As Kyle's composite of your picture and the eBay picture so clearly illustrates this absolutely is the same uke in both of those original pictures. I defy you to find two instruments with abalone (or even fake abalone) purfling and rosettes where the patterns match this clearly especially when the photographs were made at slightly different angles and lighting.

It's okay, you're not the first to come charging into the marketplace thinking to make a quick buck off the ukulele rubes(*) and in so doing overplay your hand...you probably won't be the last. Probably time to cut your losses as it's doubtful that anybody is going to be very interested in any of the several items you listed. I can't imagine that you were any more honest in those listings than in this one.

(*) Edit: Sorry, you didn't say rubes, you said schoolgirls, my mistake: LOL

thanks for the aloha dust,I might have responded a little to severely..as i am a very serious person with a wonderful uke to sell,and thought that i was posting to an advertising side page like panjo..and not just chatting away like a school girl on the uu website,...

John

OldePhart
02-06-2014, 10:23 AM
who says that i am the original buyer???

Well...about two minutes worth of amateur detective work suggests it pretty strongly. The auction closed on 1/15/2014 and the buyer was 5***b with 90 feedback score and who has a number of bids on ukuleles.

So, a search on ebay for "Lanikai LQA-TCA" (one of the other ukes you've listed here) turns up this listing http://www.ebay.com/itm/LANIKAI-LQA-TCA-QUILT-ASH-SPRUCE-TOP-TENOR-CUT-AWAY-acoustic-eletric-ukulele-/251442557970?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3a8b24f412 A listing by, toddir58, and using a picture of that lovely side of your refrigerator, imagine that! A quick look at toddir58's feedback reveals a score of 90, seller feedback from taisamlu on 1/19/2014. Shall I go on?

Oh...btw...ebay user toddir58 lists his location as Kaunakakai. You'd think that a ukulele fan in Hawaii would just maybe know the difference between Koa and Acacia...yet he listed this Pono ASD as "RARE KOA WOOD..." http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-KOA-WOOD-KOOLAU-PONO-SOPRANO-UKULELE-compare-over-400-another-site-/251429665572

If you're going to kick the anthill don't be surprised if you get bitten... Frankly, we're a little more sophisticated than your average school girl and we demand a better class of liar. LOL

John

NoKaOi
02-06-2014, 10:54 AM
Frankly, we're a little more sophisticated than your average school girl and we demand a better class of liar. LOL

Speak for yourself, phartman - some of us philistines simply nuke a bag of the popcorn & wait for the brilliance of our, ahem...elders, to manifest.. :cool:

In any case, nice sleuthing efforts there, Magnum.. :worship:

OldePhart
02-06-2014, 11:11 AM
Speak for yourself, phartman - some of us philistines simply nuke a bag of the popcorn & wait for the brilliance of our, ahem...elders, to manifest.. :cool:

In any case, nice sleuthing efforts there, Magnum.. :worship:

Heh, heh. Thanks...unfortunately, it gets even worse...

John

flailingfingers
02-09-2014, 04:46 AM
Much like following a good mystery show I have followed this post simply to see what happens. The very sophisticated detective work by members is really impressive. It gives me confidence in buying from the forum. Impressive. Thanks to all you Sherlocks!

The Big Kahuna
02-09-2014, 05:17 AM
Oh man, I'm always the last one to the car crash!

toddir58
02-09-2014, 06:04 AM
Oh man, I'm always the last one to the car crash!

wow i have met people as far away as australia,and now england with thi posting thats pretty cool i think,...There are a few great luthiers that call molokai home at least part time..and through their knowledge and goodwill have passed on some uke tips to the local playing community (no need to name drop..but those in the know...know who I'm referring to)..By the way I will be harvesting a 100 year old hawaiian milo tree later this summer and the uke luthiers will be getting a large share of the harvest...so look for some molokai milo ukes next year..they should be stunning,and probably pricey as well.aloha from warm and sunny kamiloloa, molokai, hawaii. (look up milo as a craftsmans choice wood and see the grain patterns and natural colors,sometimes you can even see the purple if the tree is old enough.)

PhilUSAFRet
02-12-2014, 01:39 PM
I notice it's back on ebay