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artwombat
04-06-2014, 01:56 AM
What would you buy ???

If you wanted a uke to learn on for a few weeks but then you had to trash it.

anthonyg
04-06-2014, 02:32 AM
Catch 22. Anything worth learning on isn't an instrument that I would throw away. REALLY cheap instruments can suffer from really POOR intonation which isn't going to do anything for a learners confidence.

I'm not sure what to suggest although cheap instruments are by and large getting better.

Anthony

cantsing
04-06-2014, 02:57 AM
I can't get past this premise. Why would you "trash" a playable ukulele? Why wouldn't you at least give it away?

Maybe this is your way of asking "what is the best ukulele that is both inexpensive and playable"?

Cindy

pixiepurls
04-06-2014, 03:30 AM
I know some people buy instruments as props and stuff that will get destroyed while being photographed for filmed.... but they are not really playable. Buy a makala dolphin, put on some nice strings. Have an ok time playing it and when you have to go, GIFT it to someone.

We don't need more trash in the landfills.

UkerDanno
04-06-2014, 04:13 AM
I know some people buy instruments as props and stuff that will get destroyed while being photographed for filmed.... but they are not really playable. Buy a makala dolphin, put on some nice strings. Have an ok time playing it and when you have to go, GIFT it to someone.

We don't need more trash in the landfills.

:shaka::shaka:

dickadcock
04-06-2014, 10:52 AM
So these would be like "burner" phones, only you could really burn them when you're done?!!! Burner Ukes.
Better yet would be ukes to replace/augment the Gideon Bibles.

Or ukes to borrow with book & CD from your library. By the time you have to return them, it is out of your system, or you get your own. . .

Freeda
04-06-2014, 11:25 AM
I don't understand the question.

dkcrown
04-06-2014, 11:33 AM
I bought an Applause UA-10 to learn on before I knew anything about ukuleles, and it wasn't inexpensive. But it did sound like crap, especially after I bought a Kanilea deluxe super concert from Music Guy Mic. As a matter of fact, I named it "Dogshit."

But I played it happily every day for three months as I found the joy that the ukulele could bring before I had to "retire" it. But I didn't throw it away, I re-purposed it. And it know has a place of honor in my uke room. It is useful to me every day.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h368/dkcrown1/002-7.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/dkcrown1/media/002-7.jpg.html)
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h368/dkcrown1/005-7.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/dkcrown1/media/005-7.jpg.html)

bonesigh
04-06-2014, 04:50 PM
Is that Applause still playable and does it keep better time??

Ukejenny
04-06-2014, 04:51 PM
I bought an Applause UA-10 to learn on before I knew anything about ukuleles, and it wasn't inexpensive. But it did sound like crap, especially after I bought a Kanilea deluxe super concert from Music Guy Mic. As a matter of fact, I named it "Dogshit."

But I played it happily every day for three months as I found the joy that the ukulele could bring before I had to "retire" it. But I didn't throw it away, I re-purposed it. And it know has a place of honor in my uke room. It is useful to me every day.

http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h368/dkcrown1/002-7.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/dkcrown1/media/002-7.jpg.html)
http://i1106.photobucket.com/albums/h368/dkcrown1/005-7.jpg (http://s1106.photobucket.com/user/dkcrown1/media/005-7.jpg.html)

This is genius.

As far as a throw away ukulele, how about building one with a large can and some scrap lumber? It probably won't sound or feel very good, but it will be something to use, and you can recycle the parts when you're done.

artwombat
04-06-2014, 07:10 PM
It is not a matter of giving it away it is a matter of it falling apart.!!!!!!

Awwww I knew no one would be satisfied with my lack of detail but here goes .............

The uke will be taken to a remote island on the equator, the humidity is soup, it is very hot and it will be moved about on the island with a lot of tropical rain and fungi growing things in places and on people that you don't want to know about. It will not be in an air conditioned room. It is not difficult to get caught in a tropical down pour and the reason for being there is employment so you can't do things when you choose to, you mostly have to do things when they need to be done or someone says they have to be done.


The actual island and the job I am not at liberty to say but I can assure you that this is a real situation.


The outdoor uke is too expensive landed in Oz and the BUGS GEAR importer in Australia has found that no one he supplies will touch their plastic model so he is not ordering any.

A Bugs Gear plastic could be OK if I can get one into Oz at a reasonable price.

I was also thinking a solid uke might be less likely to de -laminate but there might be an issue on how waterproof the pick up and amp/headphones is.

niceguyrob
04-06-2014, 07:40 PM
Try a Jack Daniels uke. I play only high end ukes these days but needed something that would likely be trashed on a camping trip. This was cheap and surprisingly good sounding. Nice a sturdy too which is good when your sleeping under the stars and have literally no protection for it. I just strap them to my backpack and go. Your looking at about 100aud. Another option is a bruko ukulele. They're made like a "brick dunny" and sound pretty good. I learnt on one of these. They would probably stand up to a bit more abuse but will cost around 200aud... Good luck.

niceguyrob
04-06-2014, 07:42 PM
Oh and try a fluke! All plastic but decent sounding

hucklelele
04-06-2014, 08:18 PM
This was my first uke, but in green- and I still play it occasionally:
http://www.amazon.com/BadAax-Sun-Burst-Soprano-Ukulele/dp/B00IA594DQ/ref=sr_1_sc_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1396850818&sr=1-1-spell&keywords=badax+ukulele

I only paid $20 shipped last summer-
it's not just a cheap uke- it plays VERY well- and the fretboard and frets are REALLY nice- better than a lot of entry ukes I think-
the depth is thin, but somehow it has a lot of punch- the strings are remarkably thick flourocarbon-

You woundn't want to throw it away tho- give it to some lucky person- I gave two of them as gifts last Christmas.

Amazon lists several colors- and a different length in inches in every listing- I think they're all standard soprano length actually.

dkcrown
04-07-2014, 01:55 AM
Is that Applause still playable and does it keep better time??

LOL. Good one bonesigh.

dickadcock
04-07-2014, 03:35 AM
artwombat, in light of the new information you've given, may I suggest that if you end up with an inexpensive wooden uke that you spray the inside of the sound box with clear poly. Several very light coats should help protect it from moisture. If it's a laminate top & back, it won't hurt, but you wouldn't do this to a solid top, obviously. I have a uke in which the back & sides are so thin, that I wonder if the inside poly is part of the structure.

Anyway, since you have given a description of the conditions you will be facing, you should know that the best way to protect the uke is dipping it. I recommend a solution of half polyurethane & half sheep dip, with a dash of pyrethrum. :)

silveraven
04-07-2014, 03:58 AM
It is not a matter of giving it away it is a matter of it falling apart.!!!!!!

Awwww I knew no one would be satisfied with my lack of detail but here goes .............

The uke will be taken to a remote island on the equator, the humidity is soup, it is very hot and it will be moved about on the island with a lot of tropical rain and fungi growing things in places and on people that you don't want to know about. It will not be in an air conditioned room. It is not difficult to get caught in a tropical down pour and the reason for being there is employment so you can't do things when you choose to, you mostly have to do things when they need to be done or someone says they have to be done.


The actual island and the job I am not at liberty to say but I can assure you that this is a real situation.


The outdoor uke is too expensive landed in Oz and the BUGS GEAR importer in Australia has found that no one he supplies will touch their plastic model so he is not ordering any.

A Bugs Gear plastic could be OK if I can get one into Oz at a reasonable price.

I was also thinking a solid uke might be less likely to de -laminate but there might be an issue on how waterproof the pick up and amp/headphones is.

So I'm right at the equator with all the horrible things tropical places are accustomed to and I find that a dehumidifier (silica gel beads) works well at keeping fungi away on wet days. The monsoon is just over so it's very hot at the moment with the occasional shower. If you keep your uke in a proper case, it should be fine. A laminate uke in a waterproof gig bag would be better if you're gonna be lugging it around.

bonesigh
04-07-2014, 11:00 AM
What about just a little old TV Pal uke. You can get one pretty cheap on ebay. They play okay and are totally plastic and very small (:

artwombat
04-07-2014, 11:24 AM
Thanks for all the great suggestions I am working through to see what is currently available. The Dolphin is around Brisbane in truck-loads but some of the others are not. I am no expert but my mate is happily uking on a new Dolphin with Aquilla, It is good enough to make him happy and it sounds fine to me.

So I will check out all the suggestions thanks everyone.

Katz-in-Boots
04-07-2014, 04:38 PM
What about a new release Kala Ukadelic? I am not sure about all of them, but the Steam Punk has an ABS back & sides and a laminate top, though the neck is apparently mahogany.
Only thing is they don't seem readily available in Oz, but if you want one, I know someone who has one they want to get rid of (me ;))

artwombat
04-07-2014, 09:47 PM
So I'm right at the equator with all the horrible things tropical places are accustomed to and I find that a dehumidifier (silica gel beads) works well at keeping fungi away on wet days. The monsoon is just over so it's very hot at the moment with the occasional shower. If you keep your uke in a proper case, it should be fine. A laminate uke in a waterproof gig bag would be better if you're gonna be lugging it around.

Sounds good Silv but silica gel turns from blue to clear then pink and it does not work anymore (very fast in a humid climate). unless you can see the colour of the crystals you can't tell if its still active or not. You can reverse the process in an oven but I have not tried it.

silveraven
04-08-2014, 04:51 AM
Sounds good Silv but silica gel turns from blue to clear then pink and it does not work anymore (very fast in a humid climate). unless you can see the colour of the crystals you can't tell if its still active or not. You can reverse the process in an oven but I have not tried it.

I carry a small pack with me in a waterproof container whenever I head out to a particularly humid place and I need my things dry and just replace the beads that are used up. And yes, I do dry them in an oven in my lab when I get back. :p There are small dehumidifiers that you can get and put into your case as well, but I've never tried them (might be an overkill?). I get what you mean by disposable now, but so far my laminate uke has been fungus-free and still uke-ing on~

Btw, I noticed that the BugsGear Plastic Ukuleles have started selling - $90 with free tuner, strap, gig bag and includes worldwide shipping.
http://www.eleuke.com/#!product/prd1/1814567545/bugsgear-plastic-ukulele-aqulele-incl-shipping

PhilipKwak
04-08-2014, 07:34 AM
Most of Chinese people think plastic uke is not instrument but, toy ukulele history in OZ also not very long
and looks has similar point of view on plastic ukes.
If it's more endurable and has good sound compare to normal wood material ukulele, it will be accepted in OZ market soon.
See below review.
http://ukulelereview.com/2014/04/07/bugsgear-aqulele-plastic-ukulele-review/#more-959


It is not a matter of giving it away it is a matter of it falling apart.!!!!!!

Awwww I knew no one would be satisfied with my lack of detail but here goes .............

The uke will be taken to a remote island on the equator, the humidity is soup, it is very hot and it will be moved about on the island with a lot of tropical rain and fungi growing things in places and on people that you don't want to know about. It will not be in an air conditioned room. It is not difficult to get caught in a tropical down pour and the reason for being there is employment so you can't do things when you choose to, you mostly have to do things when they need to be done or someone says they have to be done.


The actual island and the job I am not at liberty to say but I can assure you that this is a real situation.


The outdoor uke is too expensive landed in Oz and the BUGS GEAR importer in Australia has found that no one he supplies will touch their plastic model so he is not ordering any.

A Bugs Gear plastic could be OK if I can get one into Oz at a reasonable price.

I was also thinking a solid uke might be less likely to de -laminate but there might be an issue on how waterproof the pick up and amp/headphones is.

artwombat
04-08-2014, 11:24 AM
Most of Chinese people think plastic uke is not instrument but, toy ukulele history in OZ also not very long
and looks has similar point of view on plastic ukes.
If it's more endurable and has good sound compare to normal wood material ukulele, it will be accepted in OZ market soon.
See below review.
http://ukulelereview.com/2014/04/07/bugsgear-aqulele-plastic-ukulele-review/#more-959

I am not surprised These high tech plastics are used in motorcycle helmets so toughness is not an issue and wood and glue are vastly different acoustically and some frame work is needed structurally but not in plastic. So from a construction point of view (clean shape with no ridges) the ABS plastic should have less internal hot and cold spots.

That said tho, the Dolphin and the Flea seem to think wood makes the best front or maybe the best selling option.

Our problem tho is the Worldwide shipped price of the Aqulele is more than Double the price of the Dolphin off the shelf in Brisbane.

PhilipKwak
04-08-2014, 01:58 PM
It's price is for early adaptor and including international shipping cost from China to AU furthermore it's price including
clip tuner and strap.
People seems don't understand why we try to make ukuleles in all plastic.
Anyone can make wooden ukuleles and sometimes in good sound with luck for wood material itself resonate well but,
plastic is different story.
They may lose all investment for molding if their project goes to fail and their plastic ukulele has no good sound for
their sound design was poor.
So, it's not a big surprise even their price in USA more than $100 as they must get return from huge molding investment.


I am not surprised These high tech plastics are used in motorcycle helmets so toughness is not an issue and wood and glue are vastly different acoustically and some frame work is needed structurally but not in plastic. So from a construction point of view (clean shape with no ridges) the ABS plastic should have less internal hot and cold spots.

That said tho, the Dolphin and the Flea seem to think wood makes the best front or maybe the best selling option.

Our problem tho is the Worldwide shipped price of the Aqulele is more than Double the price of the Dolphin off the shelf in Brisbane.

artwombat
04-08-2014, 08:07 PM
Thanks Philip, the price can be justified I have no doubt.

My son will be back in a week so he will buy what he chooses.

He has asked me to dig up what I can so if he chooses plastic or part plastic, then so far the available choices are Dolphin at $40 or Aquele at $100 he already has a tuner and both come with soft case/cover.

The Dolphin is off the shelf Brisbane and the Aquele is ex China, he has only a couple of weeks and he will be headed out again so my guess is he will buy a Dolphin.

Phluffy the Destroyer
04-08-2014, 09:29 PM
Well, I love my Diamond Head sopranos which are about $40 a pop. As I understand it though, this is not a brand you want to buy through the internet. There seems to be quite a difference in quality between whats available online and what they ship to music stores. I also have a Mahalo that I picked up for $20 used that retails for about $40. It's one of those ridiculous looking rock and roll jobs with the sunburst paint job. Once I restrung it it sounded pretty decent.

Personally though, I agree that you should opt for a plastic uke under the circumstances (unless you just don't want to schlep it back in your luggage).

wildfire070
04-08-2014, 09:39 PM
Is it possible to buy the ukulele itself at a lower price without the tuner and strap?


It's price is for early adaptor and including international shipping cost from China to AU furthermore it's price including
clip tuner and strap.

chefy
04-08-2014, 09:49 PM
A Bruce Wei uke could do well on the island - similar climate to Vietnam and a solid one for a hundy seems unbeatable value - have you considered passing it onto a local at the end of the tour?

PhilipKwak
04-09-2014, 03:34 AM
Thanks I sent message.

Is it possible to buy the ukulele itself at a lower price without the tuner and strap?

PhilipKwak
04-09-2014, 03:35 AM
Thanks I sent message.

Is it possible to buy the ukulele itself at a lower price without the tuner and strap?

Colonel Uke
04-09-2014, 03:52 AM
I spent 6 weerks in Uganda last summer, for the trip, I took my Epiphone Les Paul ukulele because of its fairly indestructible build. Thinking back, if I could do it again, I'd take a Makala Dolphin and gift it to someone there before coming home.

artwombat
04-09-2014, 10:39 PM
A Bruce Wei uke could do well on the island - similar climate to Vietnam and a solid one for a hundy seems unbeatable value - have you considered passing it onto a local at the end of the tour?

Thanks Chefy, The job is 3 weeks on and 3 weeks off and so not leave it there on the off may be an option. So there will be big mobs of travel potential damage as well as climate potential damage.

So the use could be continuous and the damage risk is high.

chefy
04-10-2014, 10:10 PM
Found the ultimate uke to go troppo!


http://elderly.com/vintage/items/180U-1989.htm

artwombat
04-11-2014, 12:41 PM
WOW Chefy wotta uke.

artwombat
04-11-2014, 01:06 PM
Which reminds me an artist member of Paintings I Love James Boggs also makes paper mache things. AKA Eddie has his own style so everything he does is well different and he does sell his work.

This is the playable paper mache guitar he made and it has since been sold.
65805

Skinny Money McGee
04-11-2014, 01:51 PM
Found the ultimate uke to go troppo!


http://elderly.com/vintage/items/180U-1989.htm

Tempted to drive to Elderly tomorrow just to hear what this sounds like !! A machinist musician

chefy
04-12-2014, 04:55 PM
Jealous! the only downer of being down under is most uke goodies are out of reach - most things I buy untried/untested online.

Oh well at least the sand on the beach is white!