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jjdejd
06-29-2014, 07:48 AM
Who makes a decent longneck soprano? Besides the K brands, what other choices are there? I'm aware of Kala. Not looking for a pineapple. Is there anything in between? Been waiting to see the KPK, but don't see any movement from them.

river_driver
06-29-2014, 08:23 AM
I got an Ohana tenor-necked soprano (SK-30L) a few weeks ago and it rapidly became my favorite uke. It's very simple - all solid mahogany, satin finish, no binding - sounds fantastic and plays like a dream. Price is around $180 US, which I think is a steal.

Strom
06-29-2014, 08:33 AM
Hi, I'm in the the market for a mid priced longneck soprano as well. There doesn't seem to be as many to chose from as other sizes have. Good luck with your search.

Mattyukaholic
06-29-2014, 08:45 AM
Sailor Brand make lovely ones..talk to Mike at Uke Republic.

Jim Hanks
06-29-2014, 09:19 AM
There's also the new Gretsch http://www.theukulelesite.com/gretsch-longneck-soprano-g9100l.html
I talked to Andrew at HMS about it and he preferred the sound of it to the Kala SLNG - a little louder and fuller - and had a slightly thicker neck. I decided to go with the Kala because of the thinner neck and because Mim had one "next door" to me.

I saw the page for the SB at UR too. Looks nice but is "coming soon"
http://cargo.ukerepublic.com/product/sailor-brand-solid-cedar-poplar-limba-super-soprano-ukulele

Also a Kelli there http://cargo.ukerepublic.com/product/kelii-mahogany-long-neck-soprano

lakesideglenn
06-29-2014, 09:53 AM
I got a mahogany Kelii SS from Mim awhile back and it's one of my favorite players. She does a great setup as well.

engravertom
06-29-2014, 09:54 AM
Really have enjoyed the Anuenue Longneck.

http://www.anuenue-uke.com/html_version/#frame_electric_5

It's in the Papa mahogany series.

PhilUSAFRet
06-29-2014, 10:16 AM
That Sailor Brand concert necked soprano should "kick butt" in it's price range if you don't want to move up to a K brand. On the lower end, I almost forgot the Lehua. It's all solid Australian blackwood acacia. I have one and am in the process of installing a bone nut and saddle. It can be had well under the $199 list price, especially if used. Not a great "looker" but plays and sounds very good for it's price range.
http://www.lehuaukulele.com/soprano_longneck.html

jjdejd
06-29-2014, 11:00 AM
That Sailor Brand concert necked soprano should "kick butt" in it's price range if you don't want to move up to a K brand. On the lower end, I almost forgot the Lehua. It's all solid Australian blackwood acacia. I have one and am in the process of installing a bone nut and saddle. It can be had well under the $199 list price, especially if used. Not a great "looker" but plays and sounds very good for it's price range.
http://www.lehuaukulele.com/soprano_longneck.html

Not familiar with Sailor Brand. Are they brand labeled from a known mfg ?

K

Mattyukaholic
06-29-2014, 11:25 AM
Not familiar with Sailor Brand. Are they brand labeled from a known mfg ?

K

LoPrinzi (Donna makes them I believe - Augustino's daughter.) They sound wonderful.

TheCraftedCow
06-29-2014, 08:05 PM
Designed by Bob Gleason of Pegasus--made in Portugal of solid Acacia blackwood with all wood trim, is the Lehua LNS. It has a natural wood finish with through the body stringing at the bridge.

Another company who makes really nice looking and sounding LNS is Leolani of Hawaii. They are in a transition from made in China to making them in their shop in Hawaii. The price is lower because they are laminated wood, but they look, play and sound as well as the solid LNS
ukuleles.

I have both brands in stock. I am an authorised dealer of both, and EddyFinn(which has no LNS) . Prices by writing to thecraftedcow@comcast.net

iamesperambient
06-29-2014, 08:07 PM
just curious what is the advantage of a long neck soprano i don't know much about them how much longer is the neck ? obviously I know more fret room I guess soprano plinky sound but more fret room? question is how much more fret room ?

PhilUSAFRet
06-29-2014, 09:22 PM
Because of the increased scale length, they generally have a fuller sound than a normal soprano, while not sacrificing much of a soprano's "highs". Some nice demo's on HMS. Listen to a demo of a KoAloha regular soprano pineapple, then listen to the same uke with a concert neck.
http://www.theukulelesite.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Koaloha+soprano

Tootler
06-29-2014, 10:32 PM
I don't really get them. What's the advantage over, say a concert? I like my concert ukes. They seem to have the advantages claimed for the long neck soprano claimed above.

Booksniffer
06-29-2014, 11:42 PM
Bruko (Brueko) make lovely longneck sopranos!
I love my mahogany, roundbacked one. :)

The sound is slightly more full than that of my regular-necked soprano but still lovely and bright (but not piercing), and there is something about the string tension that makes it really easy to play.

They only have one in stock at the moment, but it's a beauty:
http://www.brueko.de/shop/product_info.php?info=p144_Soprano-Longneck-Ukulele-Bubinga-3-4-With-Arched-Back.html&XTCsid=b8opdpe0qfq194iq06c4m7h5d0

and if you email them, they'll often have others around as well, that they haven't had time to put up on the website yet.

GinnyT11
06-30-2014, 01:47 AM
Booksniffer, I have a longneck Brüko soprano (maple with walnut fretboard and trim). It is gorgeous and projects extremely well, but I have a very important thing coming up and I'm afraid two of my ukes must go.

iamesperambient
06-30-2014, 02:42 AM
I don't really get them. What's the advantage over, say a concert? I like my concert ukes. They seem to have the advantages claimed for the long neck soprano claimed above.

thats kind of what i was wondering but than again concert does have a larger body than soprano, i guess the point here is it has the soprano body to still retain it's voice, concert is (in my opinion) noticeable deeper mellower tone.

PhilUSAFRet
06-30-2014, 04:40 AM
I don't really get them. What's the advantage over, say a concert? I like my concert ukes. They seem to have the advantages claimed for the long neck soprano claimed above.

Please review my reply just above your's and listen to that KoAloha soprano pineapple vs longneck soprano pineapple demos on HMS (2 separate videos)

http://www.theukulelesite.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Koaloha+soprano

Booksniffer
07-02-2014, 12:39 AM
Booksniffer, I have a longneck Brüko soprano (maple with walnut fretboard and trim). It is gorgeous and projects extremely well, but I have a very important thing coming up and I'm afraid two of my ukes must go.

Thank you Ginny, it sounds lovely!
I'm not looking for another longneck at the moment though; perhaps the original poster of this thread might be interested? :)

Tootler
07-02-2014, 01:09 AM
Please review my reply just above your's and listen to that KoAloha soprano pineapple vs longneck soprano pineapple demos on HMS (2 separate videos)

http://www.theukulelesite.com/catalogsearch/result/?q=Koaloha+soprano

It was in response to your post that I made my comment. Comparison of soprano vs longneck soprano doesn't really answer my query. Comparison of longneck soprano vs concert would be a valid one. I'll have a look at the HMS site later when I get time.

Jim Hanks
07-02-2014, 02:08 AM
Here's one with S vs SLN vs C - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8df_EHGYyrk
And here's with with soprano body in three scales - http://theukulelereview.com/2013/03/18/hms-listening-booth-3-koaloha-sopranos-ksm-00-ksm-02-ksm-t2/

iamesperambient
07-02-2014, 03:40 AM
It was in response to your post that I made my comment. Comparison of soprano vs longneck soprano doesn't really answer my query. Comparison of longneck soprano vs concert would be a valid one. I'll have a look at the HMS site later when I get time.

i think their trying to show it has the same tonal qualities, concert however has a larger body and will have a more robust sound do to
the size of the body. A long neck soprano will have the same qualities tonally to a soprano because its body size is the same, but
the longer neck will allow more fret room to do more fancy licks up and down the neck with out sacrificing the beloved soprano plinky sound.
I think thats why they compared both things...if you want it to have the some tonal qualities as concert with a longer neck than...
you may as well look at long neck concerts http://www.amazon.com/Oscar-Schmidt-Washburn-OU7-Concert/dp/B002AKKOA4 but in that
case you may as well just get a tenor, in my opinion.

Tootler
07-02-2014, 07:57 AM
Here's one with S vs SLN vs C - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8df_EHGYyrk
And here's with with soprano body in three scales - http://theukulelereview.com/2013/03/18/hms-listening-booth-3-koaloha-sopranos-ksm-00-ksm-02-ksm-t2/

I watched the first video but I couldn't get the second one to play either on my iPad or laptop. I suspect it needs flash which I don't have on either as I'm a Linux user.

As far as I could tell from the HMS one, there is a slight difference in tone with between the two sopranos but nothing significant IMHO. The concert does have a slightly richer tone, though.

I can see the long neck soprano has an advantage over a standard soprano in two cases. First if you have big hands you have more room for fretting. Second, if you play up the neck a lot then those extra frets do seem to be very useful.

For me, the standard soprano is fine and I tune mine to ADF#B anyway and the shorter scale is a definite advantage in keeping string tension reasonable.


i think their trying to show it has the same tonal qualities, concert however has a larger body and will have a more robust sound do to
the size of the body. A long neck soprano will have the same qualities tonally to a soprano because its body size is the same, but
the longer neck will allow more fret room to do more fancy licks up and down the neck with out sacrificing the beloved soprano plinky sound.
I think thats why they compared both things...if you want it to have the some tonal qualities as concert with a longer neck than...
you may as well look at long neck concerts http://www.amazon.com/Oscar-Schmidt-Washburn-OU7-Concert/dp/B002AKKOA4 but in that
case you may as well just get a tenor, in my opinion.

I agree.

Jim Hanks
07-02-2014, 08:07 AM
I watched the first video but I couldn't get the second one to play either on my iPad or laptop.
Try this - worked on my iPad - http://vimeo.com/62042818

iamesperambient
07-02-2014, 08:20 AM
Try this - worked on my iPad - http://vimeo.com/62042818

yea i mean the tonal qualities are spot on seems pretty cool i like the one with the tenor neck
great for tenor players who want the more 'traditional' sound.

Bill Mc
07-02-2014, 08:28 AM
just curious what is the advantage of a long neck soprano i don't know much about them how much longer is the neck ? obviously I know more fret room I guess soprano plinky sound but more fret room? question is how much more fret room ?

Two same model, same size ukuleles are likely to sound a bit different. I have two Martin S-1's and they sound quite different. So if you bring a longneck of the same model, same size into the mix and it sounds different than either of the other two, to what do you attribute the difference in sound with certainty? I sure don't know for certain. However, for certain the longneck will give you a bit more room on the fret board.

Jim Hanks
07-02-2014, 09:57 AM
Anybody else interested in a 16" soprano? Rare beastie indeed. I'm asking around to a few builders about this. Gotten several "don't do 16" but have two so far that are still saying "maybe that would work, I'll get back to you". I'll let you know if I get back a "yes".

DownUpDave
07-02-2014, 11:34 AM
Anybody else interested in a 16" soprano? Rare beastie indeed. I'm asking around to a few builders about this. Gotten several "don't do 16" but have two so far that are still saying "maybe that would work, I'll get back to you". I'll let you know if I get back a "yes".

First off thanks for the two links, very enjoyable listening and it does demonstrate the difference in sound. But as Bill said it can come down to individual instruments, though KoAlohas are fairly consistent. The Islander AS-4 soprano I recently picked up has a concert length neck but is not marketed as such. A local shop that is BIG TIME into ukes and lessons and jams pointed it out to me and I bought it immediately. My main reason was more finger room but it did sound better than the Kala and Ohana sopranos under $200.00 that I tried there.

I would love to hear from you if you can find a builder to do a 16" scale length soprano. Thanks again.

iamesperambient
07-02-2014, 12:41 PM
Two same model, same size ukuleles are likely to sound a bit different. I have two Martin S-1's and they sound quite different. So if you bring a longneck of the same model, same size into the mix and it sounds different than either of the other two, to what do you attribute the difference in sound with certainty? I sure don't know for certain. However, for certain the longneck will give you a bit more room on the fret board.

each uke is always gonna have a different
tonal quality but over all the video demonstrated
how the long neck and regular soprano
have the same voice just a different tonal
quality maybe but not as noticeable as it would be
soprano vs concert.

Bill Mc
07-02-2014, 01:23 PM
each uke is always gonna have a different
tonal quality but over all the video demonstrated
how the long neck and regular soprano
have the same voice just a different tonal
quality maybe but not as noticeable as it would be
soprano vs concert.

Your distinction between "voice" and "tonal quality" leads me to ask you how you define those words. In my opinion the soprano ukuleles sound different mainly because they are two different ukuleles. What part the long neck plays is impossible to determine in the sound of the instrument based on two samples. A "longneck" will certainly get you a more spacious fret board. That's all you can count on with any degree of certainty.

southcoastukes
07-03-2014, 07:05 AM
We build longneck Sopranos exclusively – we call our model the “Soprano Largo”. Not that we don’t like standards, but we decided to do just one model, and the longneck was our personal preference.

As a lot have mentioned, you get more room on the fretboard, but the longer scale definitely affects the sound as well. It’s not something you’re likely to hear in a comparison video. I didn’t hear the ones posted here, but for it to mean anything, you’d have to have two identically built bodies, each with a different scale.

When you go to a longer scale, one of two things will change. Either you keep the same strings on the longneck you were using on the standard scale, and the tension goes up, or you go to thinner gauges to keep the tension similar to what you had on the standard length. In the first case, you’ll likely get more volume with the higher tension. In the second case, you’ll likely get a brighter sound with the thinner gauges.

Toots referenced this in his post, when he mentioned that D tuning would have a lot more tension on a longneck. That’s true unless you go to thinner gauges. The way we look at it, the stringing for D tuning is generally very nice on a standard. When you go to C tuning the strings are either looser, or heavier. The looser tension often isn’t as responsive as it could be, and heavier strings aren’t as bright.

Going to a longneck can make a C tuned Soprano more powerful and have a higher tension if you like. We like to string ours with slightly thinner gauges. Now you give C tuning more of the brightness of D tuning without increasing the tension. In other words, our view is that if you’re putting C tuning on a Soprano body, you’ll get a lot more “Soprano-like” sound by stringing it with slightly lighter gauges on a longer scale.

The same principles apply to other sizes. We build an “Alto Largo” and “Tenor Largo” as well. We debated long and hard on the Alto – a standard is really nice for C tuning there. On the Tenor, however, it was a slam dunk, as we saw a ton of nice possibilities for sound on a longer scaled (more or less) Tenor body.

Of course to get the benefit of all this, it also helps to know of a string company (ahem) that gives you the options to fine tune your stringing. But that’s another story.

Jim Hanks
07-09-2014, 01:28 PM
I would love to hear from you if you can find a builder to do a 16" scale length soprano. Thanks again.

Ding! Ding! We have a winner! (Maybe two)

I heard back from Mike at Uke Republic and Sailor Brand is willing to do a 16" soprano. Cost would be $375 for a 16" version of this (http://cargo.ukerepublic.com/product/sailor-brand-solid-cedar-poplar-limba-super-soprano-ukulele) with a build time finishing in Nov/Dec if ordered now. Deposit is $150 with balance due on completion. I didn't get into particulars yet but I'm assuming you could get any of the woods or options you see on other SB ukes, and maybe something more exotic if you wanted (again, didn't ask).

I am still working another lead that would have it done sooner but cost a wee bit more. More on that later if it turns into a real option.

DownUpDave
07-09-2014, 11:46 PM
Good job Jim. I am also on David's build list for a 16" Ono concert, we can now get matching scale length sopranos. I would be most interested in the exact neck length from body to nut. Anything around 8-1/2" or a little more would be a big enough increase in length to make it a worth while jump from a regular Super Soprano. Thanks for looking into this.

Jim Hanks
07-10-2014, 01:32 PM
Maybe my last update on this thread. I am now in the queue for a 16" soprano from a relatively little known East Coast luthier. It should take a couple of months to complete, maybe less. I don't want to say too much else about it at this point as the particulars aren't entirely settled, but it will be made of local (to him) hardwoods and cost right around $400. It is a bit of gamble as he hasn't done this scale before (but then neither has SB) and I've never even seen one of his ukes "live" but hey, no guts, no glory, eh? :p