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chefuke
07-07-2014, 08:01 AM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1920s-Rare-VINTAGE-HAWAIIAN-MADE-KOA-UKULELE-Uke-Purfling-Hawaii-Instrument/141335426824?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1% 26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D815138688039065530 4%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%2 6rkt%3D4%26sd%3D251581232265

Looks like a Harmony to me - how is the seller able to make the made in Hawaii claim?

dhoenisch
07-07-2014, 08:32 AM
Nope. At least not one I've ever seen. The headstock isn't right, and I've not seen one with the inlay down the fingerboard like that. Same with the rosette. Also, the bridge isn't very Harmony-like.

Dan

hmgberg
07-07-2014, 08:35 AM
Looks like a Harmony/Supertone to me, too. People say all kinds of wrong stuff.

hmgberg
07-07-2014, 08:37 AM
Nope. At least not one I've ever seen. The headstock isn't right, and I've not seen one with the inlay down the fingerboard like that. Same with the rosette. Also, the bridge isn't very Harmony-like.

Dan

Check out this page.

http://www.4stringbanjos.com/HarmonyUke/Harmony%20Supertone%20Uke%20Page.html

KoaDependent
07-07-2014, 08:41 AM
You're undoubtedly correct. Here's another one just like it: http://antebelluminstruments.blogspot.com/2011/07/c1920-harmony-made-super-fancy-flamed.html

But whatcha gonna do with 2 hrs left on the auction?

hmgberg
07-07-2014, 08:50 AM
You're undoubtedly correct. Here's another one just like it: http://antebelluminstruments.blogspot.com/2011/07/c1920-harmony-made-super-fancy-flamed.html

But whatcha gonna do with 2 hrs left on the auction?

Not much to do at this point, Dan.

dhoenisch
07-07-2014, 08:57 AM
Huh, well color me corrected. I've not seen a Harmony like that. I guess I always forget about the old Supertones.

Learn something new every day.

Dan

Ukuleleblues
07-07-2014, 09:32 AM
I have one that is similar, the bridge is different. Take a look at the label in the sound hole. It says "We guarantee this Supertone" It has the terms and at the end it says "Sears.Roebuck and Com..."

I was told it was from the late 20s and was made by Harmony for Sears.

686426864168640

I have it tuned to D and gig with it all the time as my Soprano when I want a punch bright 20s sound. I love the sound of it. It weighs almost nothing, lightest uke I own.

river_driver
07-07-2014, 10:26 AM
I also have one of these, branded as a Supertone. This has Chicago all over it.

Maybe the guy meant to type "Chicago" and he slipped up and it came out "Hawaii"...yeah...that could happen.

Ukuleleblues
07-07-2014, 11:14 AM
I also have one of these, branded as a Supertone. This has Chicago all over it.

Maybe the guy meant to type "Chicago" and he slipped up and it came out "Hawaii"...yeah...that could happen.Maybe....http://chicagoist.com/2011/04/01/found_photos_the_story_of_chicagos.php#photo-1

chefuke
07-07-2014, 11:16 AM
I have one that is similar, the bridge is different. Take a look at the label in the sound hole. It says "We guarantee this Supertone" It has the terms and at the end it says "Sears.Roebuck and Com..."

I was told it was from the late 20s and was made by Harmony for Sears.

686426864168640

I have it tuned to D and gig with it all the time as my Soprano when I want a punch bright 20s sound. I love the sound of it. It weighs almost nothing, lightest uke I own.

What a beauty! I got a mahogany supertone soprano and love to play it very much.

Cornfield
07-07-2014, 11:41 AM
Well, whoever bought it can probably return it as "not as described"

river_driver
07-07-2014, 12:24 PM
73 bids!

$257!

Somebody really wanted the hell out of that thing!

mm stan
07-07-2014, 12:27 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1920s-Rare-VINTAGE-HAWAIIAN-MADE-KOA-UKULELE-Uke-Purfling-Hawaii-Instrument/141335426824?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1% 26asc%3D20131017132637%26meid%3D815138688039065530 4%26pid%3D100033%26prg%3D20131017132637%26rk%3D3%2 6rkt%3D4%26sd%3D251581232265

Looks like a Harmony to me - how is the seller able to make the made in Hawaii claim?
Somehow correct family information most times gets lost in generations and the story gets changed...I do believe the person selling may have thought it
was hawaiian or misintrepted it as when someone said it was a hawaiian style ukulele.....these things happen in passing the story on not only in ukes...the story in the family gets fuzzy at one point
and everyone afterwards follow that off the path story line...

UkerDanno
07-07-2014, 12:44 PM
Very nice! I learn all kinds of cool stuff on this forum! So...as far as that restored one, to a serious collector, is the restored one more valuable than the playable, all original?

river_driver
07-07-2014, 01:04 PM
Very nice! I learn all kinds of cool stuff on this forum! So...as far as that restored one, to a serious collector, is the restored one more valuable than the playable, all original?

There's all kinds of 'serious collectors' - some want restored playable, others want survivors, others want relic condition. All that aside, whoever paid $257 for that one on the 'bay paid way too much.

Supertones (and their successor Silvertone) can be some really nice vintage ukes (I'm a bit of a geek for them...), but they generally don't command big prices. Why? Because Sears sold gazillions of them through their catalog back in the day. Which means there are a lot of them still out there. Makes them a great entry point for the budding vintage enthusiast!!

hmgberg
07-07-2014, 01:45 PM
Hawaii, Illinois... Chicagolulu...Hawaigo....

river_driver
07-07-2014, 01:55 PM
Hawaii, Illinois... Chicagolulu...Hawaigo....

What was the song that started the mainland ukulele craze back in the 19teens? "On the Beach at Milwaukee"?

hmgberg
07-07-2014, 02:14 PM
What was the song that started the mainland ukulele craze back in the 19teens? "On the Beach at Milwaukee"?

Yes, that was it. Brings back such memories of the beach at Green Bay.

Nickie
07-07-2014, 03:21 PM
What I wanna know is why is that Kamaka below it selling for only $225? What's wrong with it?

Hammond
07-07-2014, 03:36 PM
What I wanna know is why is that Kamaka below it selling for only $225? What's wrong with it?

I have the same query. Or maybe it will bid up to the right price when the auction almost end?

chefuke
07-07-2014, 05:05 PM
There's all kinds of 'serious collectors' - some want restored playable, others want survivors, others want relic condition. All that aside, whoever paid $257 for that one on the 'bay paid way too much.

Supertones (and their successor Silvertone) can be some really nice vintage ukes (I'm a bit of a geek for them...), but they generally don't command big prices. Why? Because Sears sold gazillions of them through their catalog back in the day. Which means there are a lot of them still out there. Makes them a great entry point for the budding vintage enthusiast!!


Same here! Once set up they are a fantastic uke and in my view they beat all that new stuff by far.

chefuke
07-07-2014, 06:42 PM
Somehow correct family information most times gets lost in generations and the story gets changed...I do believe the person selling may have thought it
was hawaiian or misintrepted it as when someone said it was a hawaiian style ukulele.....these things happen in passing the story on not only in ukes...the story in the family gets fuzzy at one point
and everyone afterwards follow that off the path story line...

i hope you are right - however I messaged the seller a day ago and he ignored my questions regarding thhe history of this ukulele. In the meantime he answered questions regarding shipping to taiwan - that makes me weary of the seller. Anyway he got a good price for it and the buyer was not forced to bid.

chefuke
07-07-2014, 06:43 PM
I have the same query. Or maybe it will bid up to the right price when the auction almost end?

Was it a Kamaka Keiki? Some Kamakas where made in Japan and are considered to be worth less.

mm stan
07-07-2014, 07:15 PM
i hope you are right - however I messaged the seller a day ago and he ignored my questions regarding thhe history of this ukulele. In the meantime he answered questions regarding shipping to taiwan - that makes me weary of the seller. Anyway he got a good price for it and the buyer was not forced to bid.

Well sometimes the story through generations could get embellished at some point a bit by one overzealous family member too...

chefuke
07-07-2014, 07:39 PM
Well sometimes the story through generations could get embellished at some point a bit by one family member too...

I could see myself as an old man making up stories about all my ukes - reminds me of grandad claiming jumping an old stone bridge with a motorcycle from1910 at over 80 kph. Once I saw the bridge years later it became clear that over time grandad's speed easily doubled.