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Thread: Anyone try fluorocarbons and go back to nylgut? Nyltech?

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    My fingertips hurt from Aquila nylguts, because they are so thick. I prefer Martin M600 fluorocarbons also for better sustain and intonation, if maybe somewhat less volume.

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    I tried fluorocarbon strings on a solid hog Islander tenor and switched them back to Nylguts.I
    I like 'em. Some ukes sound better with other strings but on others I prefer Nylguts.
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    I’ve tried numerous fluorocarbons on a few ukes and disliked them. They feel too thin for my fingers and seem overly bright. Even the so called warm versions. I came back to Nyltech and nylon. I personally love the vintage bark and warmth of both.

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    I keep wanting to like Nylguts, but always end up taking them off to be replaced with flouros. I see videos of some of my uke heros playing vintage Martin sopranos with Nylguts, and they sound fabulous. I like the feel and larger diameter of the Nylguts, and they look cool. But whenever I go back and try them again on my vintage Martin sop, they just sound dull to me, compared to Martin M600 or Worth CM. Tried Sugars, they were ok, but the squeak drove me nuts. Haven't tried Nyltech yet, maybe I will check them out.
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    I've almost always used Aquila Nylgut or Bionylon strings. I can't tell the difference between them. When I first started playing the ukulele, Nylgut strings were the rage. I bought a dozen sets. I got a deal on them. I've been happy with them, and haven't done a lot of experimentation. I did however get a set of no name fluorocarbon strings from G.B. Gitty and I put them on my Mainland solid Mahogany. From the git go I did not like them. They just sounded cheap. So I gave them a couple of weeks, played them at an open mic, and went right home afterwards and changed back to Nylguts. Now some people have told me that fluorocarbons are fluorocarbons, that it is all fishing line. Others have told me that I need to try out other fluorocarbons, they are all different. I don't know, it just depends on who I'm talking to. The search for something "better" has no end. There is always something that hasn't been tried, therefore might be better, and I just don't want to fall into that hole. I can't sit around changing strings every week and waiting for them to settle in, which is what I would be doing if I ran out and got every set of strings someone told me I had to try. I have way too much going on. So that's my story on my brief experience on the subject. I'm sticking with what is working.
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    I am not sure hope much similarity or difference there is in the quality of various fluorocarbon strings. When I have looked at comparison charts there is considerable variety in the sizes that different companies sell, so certainly that would make a significant difference in feel and sound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubulele View Post
    I bought a couple of lightly used ukes of the exact same model; they had been recently restrung (before the sale) with specially selected Seguar fishing line. Although the ukes sounded okay with the line, there seemed to be something lacking. So I switched over to my stock fluorocarbons. On one of the ukes, I did the change all at once, and heard an immediate improvement, as if a new dimension and "sparkle" had been added to the tone. When I switched the other uke, I did it string by string, so I could more easily compare the new and old strings (especially the difference between the G and A strings, which would be the closest match in diameter and tone). Yep, the side-by-side difference was readily apparent, both between the two ukes and on the same uke. Of course, I also notice a difference between certain fluorocarbon brands—specificially, Worth browns and Fremont Black Lines have a different tonal cast (and feel), while Living Water seem a bit more balanced and "dialed back", and Savarez Alliance seem higher tension, etc. So the belief that all fluorocarbon strings are just fishing line and virtually the same is a provable myth, indicative that the person saying it has a tin ear, relative to the rest of us.

    Which is not to say that, for what a person wants, they may not prefer fishing line, or nylon, or Sugars, Nylguts, Nyltechs, reds, SuperNylguts or what have you. It may be that they've just become accustomed to a certain string sound, and that's what they now consider the gold standard for uke sound. Or a person may hear so little difference, it just doesn't matter to them. That's fine, no reason they have to agree with other people's judgment (which may have become rather unduly set, even dogmatic—things do have a tendency to become accepted lore without sufficient basis or critical review).

    You're right that the search for something "better" may have no end, but many of us have found that at least some searching has led to noticeable improvement and greater satisfaction. Changing strings is the simplest, most cost-effective means for improving the tone and sustain, and sometimes the volume, of a uke. Makers don't necessarily choose the "best" strings to match their ukes, they may simply use a supply of strings that they bought in bulk, or they may have worked out a sweet deal with the string manufacturer, or they may be pushing their own string lines (as Ko'olau does). A person may also need a different string type to better match how they most often play the uke. Too many folks believe that whatever came on their ukes is what they should continue using for the "best" sound, and more often than not, it just ain't so.
    I'll go ahead and put you in my list of friends who tell me that there is a difference, and I appreciate that you have done your own comparisons. I certainly have not, so I hardly speak from extensive research. I am not in any way trying to minimize the efforts that people go to in order to experiment and analyze strings. Or anything else for that matter. For many that is the most exciting aspect of the instrument, to experiment and try new things, to search. I only speak for myself and from my limited experience, and I certainly am not the last word on any subject when it comes to music, ukuleles, or anything else. I was simply answering the question that yes, I have, and explain that my reasoning was not particularly deep or comprehensive.
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    I have worth fluorosis on my Kanile’a KT 1 and they sound great but when I tried them on my vintage Martin tenor they sounded tinny and I went back to Aquila Reds. I have Nylguts most my vintage Martin sopranos and they sound very clear and precise. It really does depend on the instrument.
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    My thanks to Rlink in #37 for capturing Ubelele’s comments, very helpful.

    I had sort of given up on Aquila’s as anything other than a good basic string to get you playing but relented and fitted them to a tidied up Uke - tidied up by sorting nut action, saddle height and saddle material, etc. Can’t say I was impressed by the strings’ sound and regret fitting Aquilas. That Uke is lent out but when I get it back some Freemont Blacklines will be going on it.

    As a separate if overlapping point I’ve ‘rescued’ a few Dolphins over recent years. Replacing the Aquila’s with Fluorocarbon’s has always given a noticeable improvement in sound quiality.

    A point for Rlink now. I had Aquila’s fitted to my Makala Concert [R has one] and it sounded OK, I fitted Martin M600’s and it sang - YMMV but I recommend the change.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Greenbag View Post
    My thanks to Rlink in #37 for capturing Ubelele’s comments, very helpful.

    I had sort of given up on Aquila’s as anything other than a good basic string to get you playing but relented and fitted them to a tidied up Uke - tidied up by sorting nut action, saddle height and saddle material, etc. Can’t say I was impressed by the strings’ sound and regret fitting Aquilas. That Uke is lent out but when I get it back some Freemont Blacklines will be going on it.

    As a separate if overlapping point I’ve ‘rescued’ a few Dolphins over recent years. Replacing the Aquila’s with Fluorocarbon’s has always given a noticeable improvement in sound quiality.

    A point for Rlink now. I had Aquila’s fitted to my Makala Concert [R has one] and it sounded OK, I fitted Martin M600’s and it sang - YMMV but I recommend the change.
    You are quite welcome. My friend Ubulele likes to grace us with his discourse on a particular subject for just a short window of time, so when they are directly related to something I say, I like to capture them up and keep them for future reference before he takes them away from me.

    I appreciate your recommendation on the Martin strings. Perhaps I will get a set some day when I'm ordering something, to fill out an order. I promise that if the stars align, I happen them on hand on a Sunday afternoon when I decide that I really need to change my strings, I will certainly try them. I do have a set of Aquila Sugars that I bought one day when someone at the music store said they would magically transform my uke, and they are next in line, whenever that is. I don't have the time of inclination to put them on right now though just to see how they sound.
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