AlanDP
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I do think that being able to translate scale degrees to chords and chord names is a really useful skill! Good on ya, Alan.
Well, I owe it to all my teachers who drilled it into me over and over again.
I do think that being able to translate scale degrees to chords and chord names is a really useful skill! Good on ya, Alan.
That's the way I learned as well—I learned voice and composition starting about 20 years before I picked up an instrument. With the uke, though, I find it easier to remember C-F-G-Am-Em-Dm and G-C-D-Em-Bm–Am than it is to remember that ii in G is vi in C and so on . . .
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A clearer way of saying what I meant: If you just know the chords relative to the tonic, then to play in a key other than C major, you need to think e.g. that I is the IV of V, II is the V of V, iii is the vi of V, and so on. For me, it's harder than learning e.g. that C is the IV of G, D is the V of G, Em is the iii of G, etc.
Don't know if anyone else does this, but when I have to make my own chord sheet from scratch (when I can't find it on the internet), I don't use the letter names for the chords, like C, F, G, etc. I just use the Roman numerals: I, IV, V, etc., using lower case for minor chords. I do this mostly because that's how I was taught to analyze music, but also if I have to transpose I don't have a lot of confusing letters in the wrong key. I realize that this might be even more confusing for some, but that's how I was taught and it works for me.
Now don't get me wrong. [snip]... This stuff is very valuable and I know it allows us to move much farther and faster. [snip]... But when you're talking about [ I, IV, V7 [snip]...] etc, I have no idea what any of that means. I do need to try and learn this stuff and [snip]... It's just really foreign to me. I had to find the Boar's Head online and could only find one small line, http://www.musicnotes.com/sheetmusic/mtdFPE.asp?ppn=MN0079510. It gave me a C, G, Am, F and Dm, so that's what I used. I am aware all of this would be so much easier if I understood it
Not at all. We're all learning from each other as the Seasons unwind; either by listening (I wish I had your proficiency in multi-tracking), by watching or by asking (I'm often to be found asking other Seasonistas how they created such and such an effect on their videos).
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With regard to I, IV, V7, etc, that's simply a way of describing a chord progression without regard to a particular key. The key of C runs C D EF G A BC. The C is the first note in the scale, the F is the 4th, the G is the 5th, the A the 6th and the D the 2nd. So your C G Am F Dm chord progression in The Boar's Head Carol would be described using this notation as I (for C), V (for G), vi (for Am), IV (for F), ii (for Dm). By convention, you use lower case Roman numerals to indicate minor chords.
Why would you want to describe the progression as I, V, vi, IV, ii? Well, suppose you were sitting in with a band, and the leader called out: "Next up, Boar's Head Carol, in G!"; you could then say to yourself "OK..., I, V, vi, IV, ii, in G? Got it: G, D, Em, C, Am." The idea behind it is that it's quicker and easier to do it this way than trying to transpose each chord individually.
This convention used to be, probably still is, very common among jazz musicians, where they would all know the progressions, but would have to alter the key they're playing it in on a nightly basis to suit the vocalist they were accompanying.
Think of it like algebra, e.g., like Pythagoras' equation, a[SUP]2[/SUP] = b[SUP]2[/SUP] + c[SUP]2[/SUP]: you use a, b & c, rather than any specific number, to indicate that the principle is generally applicable, not simply when the sides of the triangle equal 5, 4 & 3. Algebra? Hah! Hope I haven't made things worse!
uh huhhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrmqw-SwM8M&feature=youtu.be