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    Same shapes, different names. C chord is a G on Bari, fingered the same 0003. F chord is C on Bari, fingered 2010.
    G chord is D on Bari, fingered 0232, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrisinfp View Post
    As for GCEA tuning, I've read it can be used for mandolin as well, anyone have experience with this.
    GCEA would work on a mandola but likely NOT on a mandolin unless your hands are rather small. Here are comparative neck sizes of my axes:

    ~14" scale length: mandolin, soprano 'uke
    width at nut: mandolin= ~29mm, soprano= ~35mm

    19" scale length: mandola, baritone 'uke
    width at nut: mandola= 41mm, baritone= 37mm

    A mandola in CGEA would essentially be very guitar-like, same as a baritone in DGBE or any tuning with the same 4-3-4 intervals. Ordinary hands should have no trouble forming the usual guitar-like chords. There's a choice of deeper sounds with all the courses in unison, or 'richer' sounds with the lower two courses in octaves, cC-gG-EE-aa.

    A mandolin in CGEA would be very tough for many to chord because its neck is 20-25% narrower than a soprano 'uke's; I have enough trouble chording a soprano guitar-style anyway! I have taken the opposite approach -- I have two sopranos strung in 5ths, one linear, one very re-entrant. These let me play mando chords on the wider neck.

    I'm trying to learn mandolin and/or baritone without learning new chord structures
    As mentioned, a baritone strung linear plays like the top courses of a guitar, and strung re-entrant plays like any other 'uke, with exactly the same chord forms. The chords have different names in different tunings but the forms are the same, as if you used a capo. Looks like you want to emulate Tommy Tedesco (famous studio musician) -- he tuned EVERYTHING like a guitar -- mandos, banjos, lutes, etc. Nothing wrong with that. But if you only play such a tuning, you won't be able to pick up and play anybody else's mando, or try them in shops. Sometime ya just gotta bite that bullet and learn the instrument.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubulele View Post
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    Example:
    If you play Hallelujah on a soprano you could play it like:
    Intro: C Am C Am
    C Am C Am F G C G
    C F G Am F G Em Am
    F Am F C G C

    Now grab your DGBE tuned baritone, and just forget it's tuned that way. Play the song like you would on a soprano. It still sounds good right? Well, on the baritone what you actually played is:
    Intro: G Em G Em
    G Em G Em C D G D
    G C D Em C D Bm Em
    C Em C D G D

    Same chord shapes, but different chords, still sounds good together. The same goes for individual notes.
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    Bought my baritone about a month ago from Omega Music. It's a Brunswick BU5 which comes already strung to standard ukulele tuning (gcea). Aquila strings too - available as a pack from most good uke stores in the UK. So no trouble with playing the chords! Now thinking of retuning my tenor banjo uke to baritone uke tuning!

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