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    I have had spotty experience with B&H; Sweetwater is my first choice.

    Regarding the battery inverters. I've got a couple of the battery kits for charging. The ones that have AC usually contain a modified sine wave converter which you should avoid using for your amp. For an amp you need a Pure Sine Wave Converter. However, you can buy one of those battery charging devices and get a separate pure sine wave converter. If you do some searching around the web you'll find people have had mixed experiences with the Duracell and other kits for running amps.

    Someone should make a musicians power supply specifically designed for powering amplifiers. This seems to be something a lot of people want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Booli View Post
    Mike, sorry to hear that. B&H is usually really good when I have ordered from them in the past. I can select ground shipping and usually get items to my house in 2 business days to NJ from NYC.
    Quote Originally Posted by katysax View Post
    I have had spotty experience with B&H; Sweetwater is my first choice.
    I've been buying from B&H for over 20 years, literally never had a problem until now. I just talked to them and they're going to refund the overnight shipping fee and overnight it free on Monday. He assured me it would arrive on Tuesday, cutting it close, but I do have my other little amp.

    Quote Originally Posted by katysax View Post
    Regarding the battery inverters. Someone should make a musicians power supply specifically designed for powering amplifiers. This seems to be something a lot of people want.
    If you've seen my other posts, I wanted a really powerful battery/inverter setup, so I researched and decided on a rather costly combo ($500) of a 25wH (300w, 50amp) lithium battery and 500w pure sine-wave inverter to power my Carvin MB15 200/250w combo amp with 115MBE cabinet, plus a 4 mic wireless receiver and 6 channel mini mixer. Sucker lasts about 8 hours at good volume.




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    Yesterday I used the Fly3 with two different groups. Mid day we had a rehearsal of the Topanga Ukulele Revival. This group has about 50 rotating members; yesterday we had a core group of 12 people. We rehearse in a library conference room around a table. I put the Fly 3 on the table. It sounded great but I actually had to keep the volume on the low side as, believe it or not, this 3 watt amp could easily be overpowering.

    Then I used it with the Happy Little Ukulele Club of Thousand Oaks. This group meets in a large rec room of a mobile home community. We had about 20 ukuleles last night. Most of the group are strong players so they can generate quite a bit of volume. I almost always use my Double Four, and sometimes my Phil Jones Cub with this group because a large room can swallow the sound and the group can be loud. Sometimes there are 35 to 40 people at the group. As an experiment I used the Fly 3. Much to my surprise it worked great. I'm not sure that it would work with a larger group though. I had the volume open almost as high as it can go before it breaks up and it was plenty loud. No one asked me to turn it down. With the Double Four I have to fidget a bit to keep the sound from being too loud.

    I am actually blown away by the quantity and quality of sound from this little 6 watt amp. I've only been using it on batteries and the original set of alkalines is still operating after about 2 weeks of use. Maybe I just don't have expectations that are that high, but I am really liking this amp. It's not in the same class as the Roland RX or the Phil Jones Double Four, but for many people who want a usable battery powered amp, the Fly 3 might work. It is certainly ample for a ukulele jam of up to about 20-25 people.

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    I got the Fly 3 today. Wow, it's much better than I was expecting, very good volume and bass sound, much better than my Chinese 10w. I really like all the controls it has, and that you can play an iPhone through it. I attached the two boxes together with Velcro and added D rings for a shoulder strap. Really looking forward to using it tomorrow at the UCLA hospital gig. There will be 6 of us in small rooms so I'll be keeping the volume way down.




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    Wow Mike. Once again you've come up with an ingenious setup.

    I'm glad you like the amp. It's amazing how good it sounds considering the price. The volume is pretty amazing too. It doesn't replace the Double Four, but I am amazed how well it holds up to as many as 25 uke players. I've kind of gotten addicted to battery power because it makes it easier for me to move around and leaves me with one less cable to deal with. The more I use this amp the more impressed I am with the tone. Also, at first I really didn't think that the single combo was enough, but I'm enjoying it for throwing in my lap for practicing scales in my easy chair.

    For uke bassists looking for a less expensive battery operated alternative to the Double Four, I think this Fly 3 has potential. I grew to hate the Roland RX and sold it. At first I loved the RX, but compared to the Double Four it was heavy, had poor tone, and did not have enough volume. I know the RX has its proponents, but once I got the Double Four I could never get my mind off its inadequacies. I don't know if the Fly 3 has enough volume for outdoor busking, and it definitely has its limitations, but I do think a lot of uses with ubass can be covered with the Fly 3.

    Also a note on the Yamaha THR 10 for bass compared to the Fly 3. The Yamaha THR 10 is more expensive and I think not as loud, nor is the bass tone as good. The Fly 3 does not have a DI or any kind of computer connection. The Yamaha is three times as expensive. I do not find the THR 10 to be adequate as an amp for acoustic jams, but the fly 3 does work in that context.
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    Thanks K. The gig went great, there were five of us and I had to keep the volume down. In case you didn't see it on my other posts, I also fashioned a holder for my iPhone with the music and attached it to that bass, worked out great also.




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    That phone holder looks clever - wouldn't work for me I'd never be able to see the music.

    What is the bass uke you are using there?

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    That's my custom fretless 21" scale made by Bruce Wei in Vietnam a couple of years ago, all solid acacia koa for $480 shipped. I recently put on Thunder Reds and coated them once with powder and they're working pretty well.




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    blackstar fly3 pack 100usd vs 450usd for phil jones double four...seems like they should be in a totally different class. Is it really fair to compare them?

    Having one of those play toy danelectro honeytones I'm a bit skeptical of the blackstar's ability to perform.

    Guess my problem is that I would have no way to test drive either the phil jones or the blackstar.

    I do know that my ampeg ba108v1 with upgraded driver doesn't much like the strong fundamental of a ubass. For amp upgrade I've been patiently waiting for a used fender rumble 100v3 to come up cheap (22lbs, 12" driver). I've seen fender rumble 40v3's (18lbs, 10") come up locally for 120usd several times in the past year, but wanted a bigger upgrade over my little (but heavy) ampeg.

    About batteries: it's insane how some of these little lithium battery packs are sold in these car jump start kits.
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    I'm not saying they are equivalent at all. What I am saying is there are not enough battery powered alternatives. Some people want a lightweight battery powered amp for jamming with acoustic groups and can't afford or don't want to spend $500 on an amp. The fly 3 will work for a lot of those people. Is it the ultimate tone? No. It is limited in its usefulness. However it sure beats lugging a 40 lb amp for jamming with a few people.

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