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    Default Orbital sander Vs. Mouse

    Time to buy a new sander I have been using a black and Decker mouse sander for years , but I think this time I will go for a Makita orbital sander , which one works better for you ? What about sanding marks ?

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    I have the Makita 5031 which is light and easy to handle and I can't imagine a better machine for the price. I think most ROS machines would be better than the mouse, unless you want to get in corners.

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    I own a B&D sander (the type you fasten to a drill) also an orbital palm sander but I never use them on ukes....I mostly use the Jet 10-20 drum thickness sander.. a 6" X 10" belt/disc sander..an oscillating spindle sander..and finish by hand with a cork block.
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    I used to sand out with a block and sandpaper by hand (still do sometimes), but I have found that a ROS is not only quicker, but gives a better finish. Problem is for me, the big ROS sanders are heavy and too aggressive for lutherie work. I keep looking for a small ROS that is smaller (say 4 inches), but nobody ever made one. I think this would be a great niche in the market for a tool maker. Kind of a mini-ROS. The small Black & Decker was a good start, but being B&D it was a piece of cheap ----.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeyb2 View Post
    I have the Makita 5031 which is light and easy to handle and I can't imagine a better machine for the price. I think most ROS machines would be better than the mouse, unless you want to get in corners.
    I can also recommend the Makita 5031, used with 150, 240 & 400 grade Mirka Abranet discs and hooked up to a vacuum. There are no sanding marks, however I only use it on guitars - I stick to hand sanding for ukes!
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    There are plenty of small sanders on the market ..but they all seem to be compressed air powered
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wildestcat View Post
    I can also recommend the Makita 5031, used with 150, 240 & 400 grade Mirka Abranet discs and hooked up to a vacuum. There are no sanding marks, however I only use it on guitars - I stick to hand sanding for ukes!
    In the raw, I start with 80-grit Mirka to bring the top down from 0.125 to 0.10, then move through the grades until I get to 240 or 320 grit. Monitoring thickness and evenness is done with a surface-plate dial indicator. It allows measurements while keeping the parts taped down. It's untaped when thickness is "close enough," and measured with a handheld dial indicator.



    After that, the top is then ready for a shellac seal coat and rosette installation.

    https://vimeo.com/193456384

    ROS's really put a super smooth surface in a short time.
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    I've noticed that there are some good quality U/Sonic paint thickness gauges around that will measure accurately up to 2mm...I've considered buying one of these all you have to do is find a flat steel or iron surface lay the workpiece on it and take a reading...the only thing that stops me is the price.
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    The mouse sander and other sheet sanders are mostly orbital, not random orbital (ROS). Orbital sanders typically leave swirls.

    "An orbital sander has a square sanding pad, and a random-orbit sander has a round pad.

    That one variation makes all the difference. The round pad on a random-orbit sander moves in "random orbits," meaning it vibrates in tiny circles, like an orbital finishing sander, but it also spins in circles. As a result, this single compact tool can be used for both stock removal and ultra-smooth sanding. And because the pad vibrates and spins simultaneously, it all but eliminates swirl that ordinary orbital sanders sometimes leave behind".
    http://www.popularmechanics.com/home...them-13314160/
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    This subject came up some time ago and I was looking for a new ROS at that time. I think it was Chuck Moore that recommended the Festool ETS 125. What a great tool!! Light and small enough and it is set up to be used with one of their shop vacs so that every time you turn on the sander the vac comes on. I have yet to get the sander, pretty spendy, but it is on my list. I think I paid in the neighborhood of $100.00 or so on sale but they have gone up considerably since I bought mine. Well worth the exttra cash, to me anyways. Their sanding discs are good too and the dust holes on the sander and the discs line up where other discs don't.
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