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    The best part of this thread for me is that it caused me to go to YouTube and watch some of the U900 Ukulele Duo videos. Made me smile. Maybe after all the angst everyone should do that. Might make you feel better.

    Not trying to make light of real issues. But sometimes you need a feel good moment.

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    [QUOTE=bazmaz;2047916]
    Quote Originally Posted by DPO View Post

    To be fair - Goldtone are not unusual in that. Ohana, Kala and many brands share factory lines with others in the Far East. I don't think using imported Asian parts makes a brand any less respectable.

    It's not like comparing Goldtone to Deering..
    My point to Mr spaceship was that they are not manufacturers they are at best importers of instruments or parts. Spaceship was trying to denigrate KMise by infering that Goldtone were something they are not.
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    Yep!
    The funniest thing for me was when spaceship proudly proclaimed that as a writer he knows how to research, then did absolutely zero research about the "Well respected American Manufacturer" who actually is an importer of Asian instruments and parts, albeit fairly well respected. Happy days!
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    Quote Originally Posted by DPO View Post
    Yep!
    The funniest thing for me was when spaceship proudly proclaimed that as a writer he knows how to research, then did absolutely zero research about the "Well respected American Manufacturer" who actually is an importer of Asian instruments and parts, albeit fairly well respected. Happy days!
    You are misquoting me. I did not say "a well respected American manufacturer." I said "a respected manufacturer." I know perfectly well that Gold Tone outsources much (maybe all) of its manufacturing. I think you are spoiling for a fight about Asian assembly lines, but you have me confused for a straw man.

    My point is not where the manufacturing gets done. My complaint is when one company invests in the market research, design, retooling, testing and advertising required to create a new product. Then another company jumps in and sells knockoffs.

    Long term, that kind of thing will drive the innovators out of business.

    If, as seems entirely possible, the parts for Gold Tone and KMise ukes both roll off the same assembly line, that does not change the fact that Gold Tone shouldered the expense and risk of bringing a new product to market.

    I'll give my money to the business that I think deserves it. You can do the same. Buy ukuleles wherever you want.

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    [QUOTE=Dean Beaver;2048105]
    Quote Originally Posted by DPO View Post

    ... If it's the case that Goldtone (as well as other companies) have instruments or parts manufactured in China, there's a very real possibility that when you buy a Goldtone banjolele you are indirectly supporting Kmise anyway. Basically, in such a case, it probably doesn't matter one bit to Kmise which brand you purchase because it would come back to them anyway.
    No, but it matters to Gold Tone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by acmespaceship View Post
    You are misquoting me. I did not say "a well respected American manufacturer." I said "a respected manufacturer." I know perfectly well that Gold Tone outsources much (maybe all) of its manufacturing. I think you are spoiling for a fight about Asian assembly lines, but you have me confused for a straw man.

    My point is not where the manufacturing gets done. My complaint is when one company invests in the market research, design, retooling, testing and advertising required to create a new product. Then another company jumps in and sells knockoffs.

    Long term, that kind of thing will drive the innovators out of business.

    If, as seems entirely possible, the parts for Gold Tone and KMise ukes both roll off the same assembly line, that does not change the fact that Gold Tone shouldered the expense and risk of bringing a new product to market.

    I'll give my money to the business that I think deserves it. You can do the same. Buy ukuleles wherever you want.
    I apologise for using the word American. Everything else is correct.
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    A few things that will not be tolerated:

    * Borderline racist generalisations about a nation or its people extrapolated from the behaviour of corporations or politicians (who behave much the same everywhere).
    * Plain, provocative rudeness, even if carefully phrased to avoid blatant insult.
    * Whining about curtailment of your freedom of speech when you are incapable of civil discourse.

    Carry on with care and remember that no one is indispensable.

    Have a nice day.
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    As long as our hearts beat true to the lilt of a song.

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    Opening it back up for now.

    Be civil.
    And whether the blood be highland, lowland or no,
    And whether the skin be black or white as the snow,
    Of kith and of kin we are one, be it right, be it wrong,
    As long as our hearts beat true to the lilt of a song.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhuu View Post
    Opening it back up for now.

    Be civil.
    It's ironic to me that the 'Bad Boys' thread had such great potential to become offensive and go out of control with all the sarcastic humor, yet was able to stay within context, yet this thread that started talking about a new uke that was offered, and similar or direct copy of another has turned out to be a dirty slug-fest.

    Maybe it's worth reminding ourselves that we all have different preferences, and this forum should not be a place that causes your blood to boil, nor a receptacle for letting off steam, and directing it towards someone else, likely thousands of miles away.

    What happened to giving someone the benefit of the doubt, or just taking things with a grain of salt?

    I'd hope that we can try be nicer to each other, and more open minded in 'reading' the plain-text on the screen from other folks around the world, where there may be wide differences in culture and language.

    Sure, I've been guilty of mis-interpretation on many occasions, and I am still learning, and will likely be at fault again for my own lack of patience or lack of understanding, and hope and am trying to get better at acceptance and leniency, especially here on UU.

    If fellow brother BazMaz has been so deeply hurt that he no longer wishes to do reviews, or decides to stay away, this will be a huge loss not only for UU, but for everyone else around the world not on UU, that looks to him for guidance on what is out there, and if it is any good and worth our hard-earned money.

    If you read this Barry, I am humbly asking you not to give up.

    Your efforts are greatly appreciated by so many folks. Please keep doing your reviews. and Thank You once again for all of your time, effort, and energy that you spend, paying forward to help make the world a better place.

    We are all human, and not perfect. Maybe we can cut each other some slack once in a while.
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    I’m not - or at least not for this thread as a reason. Though the thread did get silly, but I put it down to the lack of context in online interaction on forums. I’m cool. Think there was actually more agreement between us than not truth be told.
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