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    Quote Originally Posted by bazmaz View Post
    I’m not - or at least not for this thread as a reason. Though the thread did get silly, but I put it down to the lack of context in online interaction on forums. I’m cool. Think there was actually more agreement between us than not truth be told.
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    In other news - Kmise are now paying people to ask and answer questions on their Amazon product listings to boost their popularity in searches. Ethical? I think not...

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    That's not uncommon on Amazon though is it - also giving products away in return for reviews. Surely Amazon could resolve all of that themselves by only allowing reviews from purchasers on their site?

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    Only verified purchaser reviews/reports are worth reading, so those wouldn't be of much use to any one sensible enough to read between the lines, no new owner of any article would write a glowing report of a product they had only just purchased. If they haven't had it for some time, their reviews are worthless.

    Even the reviews of a certain person are just personal opinion, as stated in his reviews.
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    Its a similar 'non logic' to endorsements of sports products. I don't think anyone in their right mind thinks if they buy a Nike t-shirt their tennis game improves, but still companies spend millions getting superstars to wear/use their stuff.

    If the casual buyer is on Amazon, sees no reviews, they often move on. Not everyone will bother to read them all, and even if they do are you subliminally influenced by a large number of positive, even if they turn out to be sponsored?

    Online retailers know they need reviews, so lots of things are done. Importing reviews from Aliexpress, giving products away for reviews ... etc etc. Paying for influencer posts.

    Kmise may not be a leading light in ethicality but no worse than the majority of other retailers in this particular regard. IMO of course

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    btw are Aklot and Kmise the same company??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iulia View Post
    That's not uncommon on Amazon though is it - also giving products away in return for reviews. Surely Amazon could resolve all of that themselves by only allowing reviews from purchasers on their site?
    It's actually not allowed. The trouble comes in that you are not telling readers that there was a financial incentive. Amazon have a VINE program for that in which the reviewer knows that the item is 'product placement'. Not saying so is against their TOS.

    But this isn't actually about reviews. It's about buying questions AND answers in the wording of their choice in order to make it look like there is a buzz around a product.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iulia View Post
    btw are Aklot and Kmise the same company??

    Yes they are - same people
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iulia View Post
    Kmise may not be a leading light in ethicality but no worse than the majority of other retailers in this particular regard. IMO of course
    Sorry - I completely disagree - I dont know ANY other brands who are giving stuff away with express instructions that they dont state the item was free in the review.

    I can't go with it, sorry - it makes all Amazon reviews pointless. How do you know which are freebies and which are real, if any?

    Surely you are not condoing this and DO see the problem?

    Either way though - there is a HUGE difference on the global market between AliExpress (which everyone knows can be shady) and Amazon.

    To repeat - Amazon DO NOT allow paid reviews. That's why brands are telling reviewers to not mention it. There was actually a case recently which showed Amazon are also clamping down on 'review clubs' that do this sort of thing.
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    Also - have you noticed how few of the well known brands and higher end instruments are on Amazon - even through shop storefronts of reputable uke specialist stores?

    I discussed this recently with two reputable stores, and one reputable dealer for a few big names - all of whom used to be on Amazon. They no longer use Amazon as they can't compete with the flood of instruments from China, all with hundreds of 5 star reviews over night completely skewing the search results. Put simply, if you wanted to sell a Kala or Blackbird etc etc on Amazon, the chances of you showing on pages 1-2 of search result for the term 'ukulele' are pretty much nil because these brands have sewn it up.

    I DONT think that is good for consumers, respectable brands, bricks and mortar stores. It's horrific.
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