Well damn. Whatever the reason, it is a shame because love him or hate him, he is a very valuable resource. And actually a legend really in the building world. He was tough on me like I mentioned, but I appreciated and respected that, and the lessons, and info he was conveying to me. I spoke to him several times in PM as well, and he was always very gracious, kind, and even flattering in one. I thought maybe in the public posts, he was maintaining a tough teacher reputation, and in private, was more personable. It didn't matter, either Rick I got the info was valuable, and respect to the guy is warranted, and deserved due to his longevity (1969) and notoriety in the field. Kinda wish he would return here, but I do know the type of guy he is, and he probably won't. I had always drooled over the Compass Rose, and wished that I could afford to own one. But, that probably won't happen either sad to say.