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    Following and appreciate all the reviews and commentary. I always go to school with this group when new ukes are coming in. I am very interested in this instrument but for the price tag, I am waiting to see what adjustments are being made.
    Thanks everyone!
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    Just read a post from Adam Klosowiak that my DelxElecAcoust is being made right now! Should have it in a week! Pics to samples to come. I might swing by the shop and have Jason Arimoto check it out and make adjustments and string change first however.
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    My pride and joy is a Solid Mahogany Tiny Tenor from Pepe Romero/Daniel Ho. I named it "LumiŤre"
    I also have a Kala Soprano KA-ASOV-S Spruce and Ovangkol which I named "Blood, Sweat, & Tears"
    And another soprano by Kanilea. The Islander AS-4 Acacia that I call "Little Bear"
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    I got mine at the end of September, and it's just as nice as I thought it would be. I got the stiffening rods, strap buttons, and strap. If you find it too slippery to hold comfortably, these pads work very well. The woman who came up with the idea was selling them at the Funky Frets Uke Fest last week. Three people in our group bought them, and I ordered two more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 70sSanO View Post
    One thing that bugged me was the chrome washers that sit under the hex bushings. Since the headstock is smaller than normal the washers look enormous; like 4 big buttons. I couldn't find any black metal washers that would fit, so I picked up some nylon washers at Ace Hardware. I used a dremel and a round file to get them to the right ID. I know it is personal taste, but I like the cleaner look.

    I am also not a fan of the plastic pearloid tuner buttons on this uke, so I used some chrome guitar buttons I had laying around. They might be a little big, and I may one day swap them out, but for me it gives a nice beefy look.

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    Hello, @70sSanO, I know this is probably a terribly "newbie" question but can one just swap out the "tuner grips"? (Is that the right term? If not, please let me know!) That is what I understood that you did. I never liked the white tuner grips and, like most everyone else here, I thought that the black ratio tuner upgrade was well overpriced. Plus, I was already a little perturbed at the costs of all the little "extras" ($20 for Low-G, $20 for strap buttons, $30 for TUSC Nut, $30 for stiffening rods, nylon vs fluoro strings, etc) and didn't feel like an extra $75 for what, for me, would have been a purely aesthetic upgrade. Having said that, I'd love to switch them over to black, if that's possible!

    I believe I was in the low 80's for my Indiegogo backer number, so, my understanding is that my KLOS was shipped after they decided to make the switch to lower the action from 3.0mm to 2.5mm. However, I still find it more difficult to play than my Outdoor Ukulele Carbon Soprano, who's action is lower. In fact, I've had enough difficulty that it's been discouraging me about my playing. But once I tried the OU again, I realize it's dealing with getting used to the new uke. For instance, on my OU, I can do barre (bar?) chords without any trouble but trying with all my might, I cannot get a good bar on the KLOS.

    I'd love to hear suggestions from anyone as to things I could easily do to make the KLOS easier to play. I'm a little worried about trying to lower the action further because KLOS said something about how they felt this was the most they could lower the action without causing significant buzzing - and indeed, I do get some buzzing as it is occasionally. However, I read earlier in this thread that people felt that the included (nylon) strings were incredibly thick. I'm curious if switching out strings might improve things. I thought I read that different type strings (even on a tenor) have different string tension so that there may exist a type of strings that also have lower tension in addition to being "thinner". Did I dream that up? Would this also help make it easier to play? I'm open to considering most any strings. It's not a huge cost difference to swap them out. Oddly, I'm not having much trouble with the wound Low-G but the other 3 nylon strings, I'm having a great deal of trouble with. Is there anything else you can think of that might help? I don't have any real skill re: working on a uke, which is why I'm asking about simple things to begin with.

    Just to give a bit of extra info, I have a rare genetic disease that causes my collagen to be faulty (and have literal head to toe significant health issues as a result). One of the effects are hypermobile, weak joints across my body. One of the reasons that I decided to try uke (other than falling in love with it) was that it would help my hands to be a bit stronger. Having said that, as much as I try to work on my hand strength, there is simply no way they will every be "normal" strength. I only say this because I'm not trying to avoid "putting in the work" to get my hands better, it's just a realistic fact that my finger joints will dislocate and always be loose. This is why I'm trying to seek ways to make the KLOS more easily playable, like my OU. I have to say, I personally love the intonation and the resonance of the KLOS so I really hope I can make it easier for me to play.

    Lastly, I want to get one of the D'Addario Micro Tuners for the KLOS but I'm not liking the clip-on version on the high gloss finish (I'm borrowing it from my spouse for the moment). I'm considering the D'Addario NS Micro Soundhole Tuner or the D'Addario NS Micro Clip-Free Tuner. Any thoughts as to which one might work best? I think either will be OK on this uke in terms of fit, but I'd love to hear opinions on which might be better and why. I'm including links to both below.

    D'Addario NS Micro Soundhole Tuner:
    http://www.daddario.com/pwProductDet...productid=1073

    D'Addario NS Micro Clip-Free Tuner:
    http://www.daddario.com/pwProductDet...productid=1156

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifereinspired View Post
    .......I believe I was in the low 80's for my Indiegogo backer number, so, my understanding is that my KLOS was shipped after they decided to make the switch to lower the action from 3.0mm to 2.5mm. However, I still find it more difficult to play than my Outdoor Ukulele Carbon Soprano, who's action is lower. In fact, I've had enough difficulty that it's been discouraging me about my playing. But once I tried the OU again, I realize it's dealing with getting used to the new uke. For instance, on my OU, I can do barre (bar?) chords without any trouble but trying with all my might, I cannot get a good bar on the KLOS.

    I'd love to hear suggestions from anyone as to things I could easily do to make the KLOS easier to play. I'm a little worried about trying to lower the action further because KLOS said something about how they felt this was the most they could lower the action without causing significant buzzing - and indeed, I do get some buzzing as it is occasionally. However, I read earlier in this thread that people felt that the included (nylon) strings were incredibly thick. I'm curious if switching out strings might improve things. I thought I read that different type strings (even on a tenor) have different string tension so that there may exist a type of strings that also have lower tension in addition to being "thinner". Did I dream that up? Would this also help make it easier to play? I'm open to considering most any strings. It's not a huge cost difference to swap them out. Oddly, I'm not having much trouble with the wound Low-G but the other 3 nylon strings, I'm having a great deal of trouble with. Is there anything else you can think of that might help? I don't have any real skill re: working on a uke, which is why I'm asking about simple things to begin with. ......
    All it needs is a good setup. Mine (#11) came with about 3.2 mm action at the 12th fret, and I lowered it to 2.2 mm (~0.090") at the 12th. I also lowered the action at the nut from between 0.030" and 0.040" down to 0.020" on all strings. No buzzing, using Living Waters low G fluorocarbon strings. And when he tried my Klos out Choirguy commented about just how low I had the action. So really you just need to take it to a good tech and suggest these sort of values as a goal. An alternative would be to take both your Klos and your OU to a good tech, and tell him to set up the Klos to be as low as the OU. (All of which serves to point out just how good the Outdoor ukuleles are, for just $150!)

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    The tuner "grips" are called buttons, sometimes knobs. They are not all the same. I'm guessing Gotoh compatible tuner buttons, would work, but I'm not positive. This is based on most import tuning machines seem to look more like Gotohs than Grover's.

    In a nutshell, as mentioned above, the ukulele needs to be setup. After tuning down to B instead of C, I occasionally get a slight buzz on the B (3rd) string. My action is set at .095". I will probably lower it a bit more and see how it is. I don't really want to do any fret work, but that might be unavoidable. After taking it on a week long vacation, I found it a bit challenging at times, compared to my wood tenors, but overall it fit the situation. It does lack a bit of volume.

    For you, the obvious issue is having to pay for a setup on a new ukulele, but it is what it is. Unfortunately for the buyers of the early production units, the newer ones should have incorporated some improvements. Whether that results in improved playability, I can't answer.

    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by lifereinspired View Post
    I'd love to hear suggestions from anyone as to things I could easily do to make the KLOS easier to play. I'm open to considering most any strings. It's not a huge cost difference to swap them out. Oddly, I'm not having much trouble with the wound Low-G but the other 3 nylon strings, I'm having a great deal of trouble with. Is there anything else you can think of that might help? I don't have any real skill re: working on a uke, which is why I'm asking about simple things to begin with.

    Lastly, I want to get one of the D'Addario Micro Tuners for the KLOS but I'm not liking the clip-on version on the high gloss finish (I'm borrowing it from my spouse for the moment). I'm considering the D'Addario NS Micro Soundhole Tuner or the D'Addario NS Micro Clip-Free Tuner. Any thoughts as to which one might work best? I think either will be OK on this uke in terms of fit, but I'd love to hear opinions on which might be better and why. I'm including links to both below.
    I have a couple of micro tuners, but it isn't like either of the ones you linked. Mine is more like the second one, but without the screw. I'd never screw a tuner into a uke. This tuner works very welly, and is definitely out of site. I put is on the bottom of the headstock. I know what you mean about the scratch potential, though, A bit of rubber on the grips might help.
    https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

    My favorite tuner is the Snark. It's big and obvious, but it responds quickly. Tuners are like pens. I have lots of them spread all over the house.
    https://smile.amazon.com/Snark-SN6X-...+ukulele+tuner

    There must be a good music shop within driving driving distance. Doing a custom setup should be easy for a professional. If you get the strings down to 3 mm or less, it should be more comfortable. Be aware that going too low can mess things up.

    As for the "tuning machines," a search on Amazon showed 274 items. I don't find the standard Klos tuners offensive, nor do I mind the action as the instrument came from Klos. Half a mm one way or the other is okay with me.
    https://smile.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb...uning+machines
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    Howdy - I just got mine yesterday, and besley, your post from 8-17 pretty much described my experience. High action, and the low g slot on the nut was too small. I'm planning on swapping out the strings too. How did you adjust the height in the bridge? Did you just sand it on the ukulele?

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    Quote Originally Posted by richyumul View Post
    Howdy - I just got mine yesterday, and besley, your post from 8-17 pretty much described my experience. High action, and the low g slot on the nut was too small. I'm planning on swapping out the strings too. How did you adjust the height in the bridge? Did you just sand it on the ukulele?
    Oh dear, I hoped they would have improved things by now - and we are probably scaring off potential buyers with all of our stories of required setup work. Anyway, as part of my initial setup up I first adjusted the string height at the nut, and then sanded down the saddle. Seeing there wasn't much of the saddle left standing proud of the bridge I removed the strings and saddle, and covered the top with masking tape. Then I just used a sanding block directly on the bridge with 80 grit paper until I had lowered it enough (stopping frequently to measure the height with a digital caliper). I then followed up with finer grits to tidy up, and finished up with oiling the bridge with fretboard oil (and did the fretboard too while I was at it). I'm very pleased with the result, and the uke is well worth the effort to get the setup just right.

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    Received mine and am selling it. I bought it because all my friends were all doing it, and yes, I would jump off a bridge if they were doing that, too. I got the electric version with all the bells and whistles. The uke sounds better than I thought it would. Fun to plug in and play. Has the built in tuner, which is handy. Itís a looker, too, with the black tuners. Iíll be selling it because while I was waiting for it I acquired 3 more ukuleles. So the Klos is a bit redundant for me. I got a baritone and really dig that right now. I am offering the Klos to my local ukulele groups first to avoid shipping. If no one bites, Iíll try selling it on the UU marketplace.

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