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    Default Peghed or Gotoh UPT Tuners for KoAloha Concert?

    I am the proud owner of a wonderful KoAloha concert, but I really dislike the factory-installed friction tuners. I'm considering swapping them for a set of planetary tuners, either Peghed or Gotoh UPT.

    The instrument is very light (which contributes to it's cannon-like sound!), but I've heard that the UPTs can be too heavy for a light ukulele. Has anyone had any experience with either type on a lightweight uke like my KoAloha? I'm not concerned about keeping the instrument "original", but just want to make my playing easier and not have to constantly fiddle with the friction pegs. Either set will be professionally installed by a trusted, reputable luthier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Snargle View Post
    I am the proud owner of a wonderful KoAloha concert, but I really dislike the factory-installed friction tuners. I'm considering swapping them for a set of planetary tuners, either Peghed or Gotoh UPT.

    The instrument is very light (which contributes to it's cannon-like sound!), but I've heard that the UPTs can be too heavy for a light ukulele. Has anyone had any experience with either type on a lightweight uke like my KoAloha? I'm not concerned about keeping the instrument "original", but just want to make my playing easier and not have to constantly fiddle with the friction pegs. Either set will be professionally installed by a trusted, reputable luthier.
    Friction pegs are a nuisance, but I prefer tuners that don't stick out the sides. I love Gotohs, and I really don't like Pegheds. You can get Gotohs from HMS in as assortment of colors for about $59 plus shipping. I've always gotten the long ones. Better a mm too long than a mm to short. I saw a set of UPT tuners for $22. Not sure who was selling them. They may not be as good as Gotoh, though.

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    IMHO, Pegheads would look goofy on such a nice uke. YMMV. UPTs look much more compact and nicer, to me. I've found the UPTs tune better too, very precise. Plus, they have way more options for the buttons and color of the metallic structure.
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    I love Gotoh UPT, but most my ukes are tenors. I do have one concert with them and they balance nicely. A friend has a Pono mahogany pro clasic soprano with Gotoh UPT and no balance issue. I have had Pegheads on Mya Moe, they worked great, are very light and have a cool old school violin look about them.
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    I have a 2006 KoAloha concert with original friction tuners, and a Loprinzi concert that I had built with Gotoh UPT tuners. I can't tell any difference between the two in terms of head/tuner heaviness. I love the UPTs. So much easier to deal with. My KoAloha has the koa crown-end fretboard,and the old style tuners, so I have left the original tuners on strictly for aesthetics.

    If I were to buy a new KoAloha or Opio, I'd switch out to Gotoh UPTs in a heartbeat.
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    I'm definitely leaning towards the Gotoh UPTs, particularly since the "tortoiseshell" buttons would look so much better than the funky orange tuner buttons that KoAloha uses. I think I'll chat with the local luthier and see how much he would charge for installation. If it's reasonable (and from what I've seen, it's not a big challenge if you have the right tools), then I'll probably order a set from HMS.
    Larry

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    I have a KoAloha Mango Concert. I too dislike friction tuners. I recently changed them to UPT tuners. I only regret I didn't change them sooner. They make tuning much easier and I absolutely can't tell any difference in the balance of the uke. I will be installing them on my KoAloha longneck Soprano soon.
    I also own a few Ukes with Peghed tuners, I much prefer Gotoh UPT.
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    What's the correct sizing for UPTs for a Koaloha Concert given the thickness (or lack thereof) of the headstock?

    I'm definitely thinking I'd like to buy some UPTs and install them. The current friction tuners on my Pikake concert aren't cutting it- my G string continually slips out of tune while playing after being tuned up and won't hold (it's not a new string set at this point).

    I'm assuming the "short" rather than the "long" tuners would be the way to go- Lapyang, is that what you used? Thanks for the help!

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    Id probably use short UPTs. Im going to use short for mine too. HMS do a good video on this which you can see here, they use the short ones too: https://vimeo.com/123455918

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    Quote Originally Posted by RafterGirl View Post
    I have a 2006 KoAloha concert with original friction tuners, and a Loprinzi concert that I had built with Gotoh UPT tuners. I can't tell any difference between the two in terms of head/tuner heaviness. I love the UPTs. So much easier to deal with. My KoAloha has the koa crown-end fretboard,and the old style tuners, so I have left the original tuners on strictly for aesthetics.

    If I were to buy a new KoAloha or Opio, I'd switch out to Gotoh UPTs in a heartbeat.
    I have those same white tuners on my old KoAloha Scepter.
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