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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    The guitaleles are a nice size at the body, but they all seem to be very wide at the nut. As if they cut off the 5 frets closest to the nut, when what I want is for that much length to be cut off where it attaches to the body. Does such an instrument exist?? I would prefer it to be strung E to E, although would accept A to A or G to G. (Nylon strings)
    Hi, mgsondance!

    You may like my guitaleles.
    A: I made this guitalele form concert ukulele with 38mm nut. I filled 4 holes in head stock and drilled 6 holes instead. I've installed Gotoh UPT tuners. I made tail piece by myself and setup nut and saddle. I had to shave bridge in order to lower the saddle. I strung all of these guitaleles with steal strings as EADGBE. It was concert ukulele and was strung with nylon strings. But the tension is low and we can string it with steal strings. Has no trouble with sound board. It has 38mm nut. When I check the nut width I check B7 chord. 38 mm nut is ok to me. Old Gibson J45 ('58) has 39mm nut, and I still have seen Gibson's latest model with 39mm nut in local shop. Many electric guitars have 40mm nut width. 38mm nut is not too small for me.
    B: This one is a souvenir guitar in Cebu Island Philippines. I change bridge and made nut. I've installed Gotoh UPTL tuners. It is concert size too and soprano size. It has 39mm nut (1.5 inch, same as old Gibson J45).
    C: Ibaneze EWP-15. This one is very nice guitalele. I've installed Gotoh UPTL tuners. It has 42mm nut. I've strung it Martin medium stirngs as EADGBE, although it came with extra light strings as A to A.

    I think they are all belong to ukulele. Because people think them ukulele at first sight, even they were guitarists around me. No one do not care about strings they just care about size and I love ukulele size.

    Last edited by zztush; 01-06-2019 at 10:45 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zztush View Post
    Hi, mgsondance!

    You may like my guitaleles.
    A: I made this guitalele form concert ukulele with 38mm nut. I filled 4 holes in head stock and drilled 6 holes instead. I've installed Gotoh UPT tuners. I made tail piece by myself and setup nut and saddle. I had to shave bridge in order to lower the saddle. I strung all of these guitaleles with steal strings as EADGBE. It was concert ukulele and was strung with nylon strings. But the tension is low and we can string it with steal strings. Has no trouble with sound board. It has 38mm nut. When I check the nut width I check B7 chord. 38 mm nut is ok to me. Old Gibson J45 ('58) has 39mm nut, and I still have seen Gibson's latest model with 39mm nut in local shop. Many electric guitars have 40mm nut width. 38mm nut is not too small for me.
    B: This one is a souvenir guitar in Cebu Island Philippines. I change bridge and made nut. I've installed Gotoh UPTL tuners. It is in-between concert and soprano size. It has 39mm nut (1.5 inch, same as old Gibson J45).
    C: Ibaneze EWP-15. This one is very nice guitalele. I've installed Gotoh UPTL tuners. It has 42mm nut. I've strung it Martin medium stirngs as EADGBE, although it came with extra light strings as A to A.

    I think they are all belong to ukulele. Because people think them ukulele at first sight, even they were guitarists around me. No one do not care about strings they just care about size and I love ukulele size.

    Cool! I read something interesting about the Opio guitalele today; Though the nut width is wider to accommodate the extra strings, they actually shaved down the depth of the neck to make it a bit easier to reach. There are also 3 new guileles coming out from Romero Creations. One uses the tiny tenor shape, which is very comfortable for me.
    Mya Moe Chocolate Mango Concert
    Romero Creations Koa ST Concert
    Concert Magic Fluke
    Gary Creedy Cherry Tenor
    Martin OX soprano
    Deering Goodtime Banjo Uke
    Mainland Cedar/Rosewood Baritone

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgsondance View Post
    After 20 years of not playing my guitar, it felt huge to me- so I bought a ukulele and now have several. But I still miss the fuller sound of 6 strings, being able to have the tonic note at the base of the chord (rather than an inversion), as well as the lower range. The mini guitars (baby Taylor, little Martin) feel too big. The guitaleles are a nice size at the body, but they all seem to be very wide at the nut. As if they cut off the 5 frets closest to the nut, when what I want is for that much length to be cut off where it attaches to the body. Does such an instrument exist?? I would prefer it to be strung E to E, although would accept A to A or G to G. (Nylon strings)
    I think the reason it looks "weird" is because the neck is short in length making the nut width look wide in comparision. When you consider most classical guitars have a nut width or 50-52 mm (2") with a scale length of 650mm (25.5"). In comparision a guilele nut width is 48-50mm (1-7/8") but with a very short 508" (20"). This makes it look all out of proportion, which it is kinda. But with nylon strings you need this width for proper string spacing to play it cleanly. There is a very good reason why classical guitars have a wide nut width, it is for proper function with nylon strings.
    Last edited by DownUpDave; 01-07-2019 at 03:26 AM.
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    I have a “Creedy” baritone and it has pretty wide neck, 40mm nut (my Taylor guitar looks to be only about 43, my Pono tenor guitar is 34). It doesn’t seem like it would be tight neck if it was just cut for 6 slots, especially if braced for steel. But then, I play some mandolin, so I’m kinda use to small spacing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DownUpDave View Post
    I think the reason it looks "weird" is because the neck is short in length making the nut width look wide in comparision. When you consider most classical guitars have a nut width or 50-52 mm (2") with a scale length of 650mm (25.5"). In comparision a guilele nut width is 48-50mm (1-7/8") but with a very short 508" (20"). This makes it look all out of proportion, which it is kinda. But with nylon strings you need this width for proper string spacing to play it cleanly. There is a very good reason why classical guitars have a wide nut width, it is for proper function with nylon strings.


    Hi, Dave!
    This guitar may look good proportion, because it has only a neck. :-) I carry it in my golf bag and bring it everywhere.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DownUpDave View Post
    I think the reason it looks "weird" is because the neck is short in length making the nut width look wide in comparision. When you consider most classical guitars have a nut width or 50-52 mm (2") with a scale length of 650mm (25.5"). In comparision a guilele nut width is 48-50mm (1-7/8") but with a very short 508" (20"). This makes it look all out of proportion, which it is kinda. But with nylon strings you need this width for proper string spacing to play it cleanly. There is a very good reason why classical guitars have a wide nut width, it is for proper function with nylon strings.

    It's not just the scale length but the fretboard width in relation to the body size (notably the upper bout width). When I was designing my version of a 'guitalele' it gave enormous problems in terms of getting the look right. In fact it's not possible, you are always going to end up with an instrument where the fretboard looks too wide for the size of body. It even messes up the way the sides approach the neck button. Not a lot that can be done, it just becomes an exercise in compromise. I tend to do the nut width at 48 mm's which was very common on romantic gut string guitars. The vast majority of nylon string players are fine with a 48 mm nut width. 46 mm and you are really starting to squeeze their fingers into a tight space. A lot depends on fingers of course, some players have very slender fingers, others like myself have rather chunky fingers. I can play on a 48 mm though.

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