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    Next time Theresa May sees Michel Barnier she should take a European Union flag on a pole. When Barnier sees this he will take it as a good sign. "So, Theresa are you going to sign the deal?". At that point she should hold the pole at the flag end and thrust the other end up his arse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ukeless_ View Post
    Next time Theresa May sees Michel Barnier she should take a European Union flag on a pole. When Barnier sees this he will take it as a good sign. "So, Theresa are you going to sign the deal?". At that point she should hold the pole at the flag end and thrust the other end up his arse.
    I feel your frustration and empathise. My own family is split about the EU and the issue is very devisive as feelings run so strong. Much as I don’t feel the EU have treated the U.K. fairly for decades and think them bent on taking us to the cleaners on exit there is little that Mrs M can do beyond the present. That we will actually leave is in doubt anyway, those with money and influence may yet circumnavigate democracy and have us stay regardless. That’s the trouble with most politicians and near all professional lobbyists, in their eyes the desires and the wishes of the population aren’t really that important. Still, could be worse - don’t fancy living in Russia, China or Turkey much - so best to try to keep chilled about it all and make the best of whatever happens. As our American Cousins say ‘if you’re given Lemons then make Lemonade’, following that line of thought is perhaps our best attitude and response to what ever happens with the EU.
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    Quote Originally Posted by _Ukeless_ View Post
    Next time Theresa May sees Michel Barnier she should take a European Union flag on a pole. When Barnier sees this he will take it as a good sign. "So, Theresa are you going to sign the deal?". At that point she should hold the pole at the flag end and thrust the other end up his arse.
    This is a dangerous topic for a forum that does not allow political or divisive discussion.
    You have already made your opinions pretty clear with your "location" and your signature.
    Many, like me, will disagree with you, but this isn't the place for that debate.

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    The problem was that 'we, the people', signed up for a 'Common Market', but successive 'Politicians' have got us deeper & deeper into a 'Union' that we didn't, & don't want!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croaky Keith View Post
    The problem was that 'me, the person', signed up for a 'Common Market', but successive 'Politicians' have got me deeper & deeper into a 'Union' that I didn't, & don't want!
    There you go, Keith, fixed that for you! The Brexit issue is unfortunately deeply toxic and has really marred the landscape of debate in our fair land but regardless of where anyone stands on it we shouldn't put words in other people's mouths. The referendum result was very close, so a significant minority of people do want the union, almost as many as the people who don't. If those two blocks are to come together again at some point (and for the UK to thrive they do need to) we need a lot more understanding on both sides of the debate.

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    The United Kingdom is a country of enterprise. The only other EU country of enterprise is Germany. There is mutual respect between the two. When the UK has left the EU the next biggest economies after Germany will be France, Spain and Italy. France has made a fiscal deficit for the last 45 consecutive years, Spain has half the GDP of the UK and almost 4 times the unemployment, Italy is gradually declining financially. Greece is bankrupt and will be a long term drag on EU (German) financial resources. There are a few EU countries that are not basket cases but their economies are so small as to be not significant.

    Germany and the UK are providing the funds to keep the basket cases in business. France is absolutely taking the piss. If the European Union is strong then it does not need the UK. If it is weak then it is the UK government's duty to act in the best interests of its citizens by getting us totally out. The Remainers make one point that I agree with, that nobody knows the consequences of getting out. But everyone knows the consequences of staying in. Germany and the UK would be perpetually funding an organisation of basket cases.

    Getting out with no deal bruises the UK for a while because trade deals worldwide cannot be done in 5 minutes. But it is a very big worldwide market. When we are up and running with several big deals we can listen to the EU begging for a deal in order that it can survive. Then we can say "Take our first and final offer or 'go away' for good".

    Without the UK the EU will slowly collapse, it is inevitable. The large number of basket cases will at some stage not be able to totally depend upon generous German funding.
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    But what about the new ukuleles? And what strings are best for Sopranos? What about the G problem— high or low?
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    The Government allowed, for this vote only, all 17 year olds to have a say, & even with all those extra votes, the majority voted 'out'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Down Up Dick View Post
    But what about the new ukuleles? And what strings are best for Sopranos? What about the G problem— high or low?
    Now, you know, I've told you before, low G on everything!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Croaky Keith View Post
    The Government allowed, for this vote only, all 17 year olds to have a say, & even with all those extra votes, the majority voted 'out'.
    The majority did indeed vote out although your second assertion is not quite correct. The House of Lords backed a motion to allow 16 and 17 year olds to vote but it was blocked by MPs in the Commons - it was 18 years old and over only in the referendum. I have no idea what, if any, difference increasing the voter pool would have made but 17 year olds did not get to vote in the referendum.

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