Results 1 to 6 of 6

Thread: Beginner intonation questions

  1. #1
    Join Date
    Mar 2017
    Location
    Arlington, WA U.S.A.
    Posts
    401

    Default Beginner intonation questions

    Having enjoyed my figured Maple and Redwood tenor that is now complete, I'm looking at compensation on the saddle. There is room for improvement Yen intonation. Guitar Tuna is an app for my Android phone that tells me that all strings are just a little flat, some more than others. It has a chromatic setting that registers in frequency numbers. The harmonic at the 12th fret is higher than the string when it is fretted. How precise do you get and are there considerations in intentionally missing spot on for some reason that I wouldn't know?
    Thanks, all!
    "Why is it that you never have time to do it right the first time, but you always have time to do it right the second time??"

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Stockton on Tees..North East UK.
    Posts
    5,330

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by ChuckBarnett View Post
    Having enjoyed my figured Maple and Redwood tenor that is now complete, I'm looking at compensation on the saddle. There is room for improvement Yen intonation. Guitar Tuna is an app for my Android phone that tells me that all strings are just a little flat, some more than others. It has a chromatic setting that registers in frequency numbers. The harmonic at the 12th fret is higher than the string when it is fretted. How precise do you get and are there considerations in intentionally missing spot on for some reason that I wouldn't know?
    Thanks, all!
    Chuck ..if you are going to use an electronic device all over the fretboard ..you will never get it perfectly in tune all fretted instruments have this problem..See here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJXK...youtu.be&t=45s
    http://ukulele-innovation.tripod.com ebay i/d squarepeg_3000 Email timmsken@hotmail.com

    If you can believe that moving images and sound, can fly through empty space across the universe and be seen and heard on a box in your living room ?.. then you can believe in anything.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Oct 2014
    Location
    Little River, California
    Posts
    2,486

    Default

    Of all the questions in the Luthier's Lounge, this one engenders the most confusion. It is a physics thing and there is no such thing as perfect intonation. Do your homework Chuck. Start with J.S. Bach's The Well Tempered Clavier: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Well-Tempered_Clavier

    PS: To delete a double post (like I did the other day), go to edit post and then delete post. Keeps things from getting cluttered up and keeps the moderator(s) happy.

  4. #4

    Default

    As others have said no perfect intonation with fretted instuments, and the shorter the scale the more imperfect all other conditions excluded. It always bothers me when builders claim their ukuleles have perfect intonation.
    Michael Smith
    Goat Rock Ukulele
    www.goatrockukulele.com

  5. #5
    Join Date
    Dec 2011
    Location
    Grand Junction, Colorado
    Posts
    2,866

    Default

    With a 1/8" thick saddle, I aim (and get) all the strings within 5 cents of perfect intonation at the 12th fret.

    To get perfect intonation (at the 12th fret), you need a 4-5mm wide saddle.

    It should be noted that if you change string brand and/or gauge, the intonation will change.....

    The N-track tuner is a good free tuner that displays Cents.

    Screen Shot 2019-01-08 at 12.51.15 PM.jpg

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Mar 2009
    Location
    Stockton on Tees..North East UK.
    Posts
    5,330

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Michael Smith View Post
    As others have said no perfect intonation with fretted instuments, and the shorter the scale the more imperfect all other conditions excluded. It always bothers me when builders claim their ukuleles have perfect intonation.
    You mean they are "Purveyor's of Terminological inexactitude" (Winston Churchill)
    http://ukulele-innovation.tripod.com ebay i/d squarepeg_3000 Email timmsken@hotmail.com

    If you can believe that moving images and sound, can fly through empty space across the universe and be seen and heard on a box in your living room ?.. then you can believe in anything.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Bookmarks

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •