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    I don't see anything positive in cannabis as I was addicted in my youth and recovering from wasted years and getting my life back together was a slow process. Many friends were not as fortunate. As for medical use I will accept that once it has undergone the same rigorous process of scientific trials and approvals as any other pharmaceutical medication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin666 View Post
    trials and approvals as any other pharmaceutical medication.
    The whole point is it is not a pharmaceutical!

    I also look back on my wasted youth eating too much and having unlimited coffee. Addiction is tough.
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    I object to ALL victimless crimes, including drug related crimes. I don't want to pay for the law enforcement, courts, probation/parole, and incarceration. It all costs a fortune, and I don't want to pay for any of it. I'll support anyone who wants to fight an addiction, or needs treatment. And, I'm willing to pay my share of those type of expenses for indigents. But I don't care what people do with and to their own bodies. Be my guest, go ahead and screw yourself up. I could care less. If you want to get clean, first you pay for your treatment. After your own resources are exhausted, I support the concept of public treatment centers. As far as "medical" MJ is concerned, the reason you might choose to use it is irrelevant as far as I'm concerned. If it helps you, or you like it, or if you just want to "tune in, turn on, and drop out," I say, go for it.
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    As a person with a history of cancer, autoimmune disease and debilitating anxiety, depression and insomnia, I’m a big supporter (and user).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nickie View Post
    As a retired hospice nurse, I'm all for it. I've had dozens of patients who could have benefited from it, instead of using many doses of morphine and other opiods, and ativan, an anti anxiety med.
    I can tell you it's very safe, non habit forming, and there are no withdrawal symptoms if use is stopped. I did have a few patients that used it with their own suppliers, and they were helped greatly.
    And, when I was a pot user, I enjoyed the high thoroughly. Never a hangover! Never a bad trip. No constipation. And it was cheap.
    The Big Pharma jerks are trying to stop CBD, get it banned.
    That’s the problem with commerce in its many forms, they all like to protect their markets and they all want to stitch the customer (victim) up for every last penny that they can.

    I’m not a recreational drug user and avoid what medication that I can. Pharmaceutical companies are not to be automatically trusted - sadly neither are Doctors - but there still is a lot of integrity in health care. I’m in favour of alternative treatments but their validation isn’t always easy and the Pharmaceutical companies have a commercial interest in only their products being legal - guess what happens.

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    Discreetly, deniably downwind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by merlin666 View Post
    I don't see anything positive in cannabis as I was addicted in my youth and recovering from wasted years and getting my life back together was a slow process. Many friends were not as fortunate. As for medical use I will accept that once it has undergone the same rigorous process of scientific trials and approvals as any other pharmaceutical medication.
    Addicted to cannabis? I spent a lot of the sixties and seventies smoking weed almost daily and had no trouble stopping. Many of my friends were involved in the drug culture of the day, but none were addicted to cannabis. I found that when the people I hung out with were no longer smoking weed, I no longer had the desire. There were no withdrawal symptoms and I occasionally have had a social toke since, but have no desire to get stoned.
    I have been addicted to tobacco and found it extremely difficult to overcome.
    I have close friends who are alcoholics. Some have stopped drinking and some have still not reached bottom.
    It's not that I don't believe it's possible to be addicted to cannabis, I just think tobacco and alcohol are far worse threats.
    My wife has never smoked dope, but, on the advice of her doctor, she uses CBD oil to ease the pain in her leg.

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    Interesting that this whole slightly unusual conversation seems tohave developed from a spam post.

    I am all for legalisation of all drugs. If we removed the criminality of drugs, most organised crime would vanish. All that misery gone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris667 View Post
    Interesting that this whole slightly unusual conversation seems tohave developed from a spam post.

    I am all for legalisation of all drugs. If we removed the criminality of drugs, most organised crime would vanish. All that misery gone.
    Organised crime will always be with us in some form, the people involved will find other ways to receive income that doesn’t involve harder ‘honest’ work. That said I would definitely agree that regulation rather than criminalisation is the better way to go. I also think that reducing opportunities for organised crime is good, and I’d like to see prison being less about incarceration and more about correction and rehabilitation - in the long run that saves society money too.

    Crime, we thankfully don’t do politics on UU but in my experience of recent decades the biggest thieves tend to wear suits and hide amongst similarly dressed honest business men and women. Oh dear thread drift, and from a moderate voter too.

    Yes, a spam post, somethings good things do come out of bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Yates View Post
    Addicted to cannabis? I spent a lot of the sixties and seventies smoking weed almost daily and had no trouble stopping. Many of my friends were involved in the drug culture of the day, but none were addicted to cannabis. I found that when the people I hung out with were no longer smoking weed, I no longer had the desire. There were no withdrawal symptoms and I occasionally have had a social toke since, but have no desire to get stoned.
    I have been addicted to tobacco and found it extremely difficult to overcome.
    I have close friends who are alcoholics. Some have stopped drinking and some have still not reached bottom.
    It's not that I don't believe it's possible to be addicted to cannabis, I just think tobacco and alcohol are far worse threats.
    My wife has never smoked dope, but, on the advice of her doctor, she uses CBD oil to ease the pain in her leg.
    Agreed. I have known for years that MJ is not physiologically addicting. However, this is not to say that it cant be psychologically addicting. I call it "attached" rather than addicted.
    I was attached to it for a decade, and when I decided to quit, I quit cold turkey, because I started college as an adult and wanted to be sharp and motivated, all the time. Using the excuse of "addiction" to pot is a lazy cop out. I guess some of us need something to blame for our shortcomings.
    MJ is a wonderful adjunct medication to opioid pain meds, and using it makes it easier for the patient to quit the opioids, which are highly addicting. There is no overdosing with MJ either, although with today's powerful strains, one can feel pretty darned high!
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