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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarmo_S View Post
    Some people are cursed with an absolute pitch, so to them the reference pitch is not as flexible thing to adjust. They are very few, and in the above general post I mean't instruments being out of tune relative to each other or even relative themselves.
    I'm not really talking about playing out of tune, I'm talking about playing relative to each other. No one it advocating for playing out of tune. I am far from perfect pitch, but I can still hear out of tune. These people are not out of tune, they just are not tuned the 440 MHz.
    I don't want to live in a world that is linear.

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    Back in the day, if the band leader had a tin ear, the band usually didn't get the gig. Course that was 55t years ago. Thank G. for the tuners today cause my tin ear has turned to lead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rllink View Post
    I'm not really talking about playing out of tune, I'm talking about playing relative to each other. No one it advocating for playing out of tune. I am far from perfect pitch, but I can still hear out of tune. These people are not out of tune, they just are not tuned the 440 MHz.
    You are mixing things now or misunderstood by purpose. But search Google for an absolute pitch ear. It is developed at very young age and is not maybe such a good thing for a flexible musician, But you asked if 440Hz A4 is needed. Of course it is not.

    Also if people can't play in tune relative to each, then they are playing out of tune!

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    I believe absolute is what people also call perfect pitch, where someone can hear and identify pitches. Certainly as you refer to playing in tune, that would be about having/developing good relative pitch. That is very important to have.

    I sometimes hear performances on line which feature people performing or reviewing an instrument which is quite out of tune. It makes it tough to listen to or really get a sense of what the instrument sounds like. The instrument resonates differently when in tune with itself.

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    Occasionally I do play at home without tuning, as you described (but I tune the strings properly relative to each other). However, that's just occasionally. Most of the time I use an "A" tuning fork, and tune from that.
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    Kala APB-CTG baritone uke (currently tuned DGBE)
    Ohana BK-35CG baritone uke (currently tuned low-octave ADF#B)
    Various guitars, banjos, and basses

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    My wife was a music major in college. I can play one note and she will yell out that’s flat so I always get out a tuner to try to get as close as I can to A = 440 Hz.

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    I have a friend that thinks she can tune by ear, and she does get it in the ball park but always between an 1/8 and 1/4 tone sharp. But, yeah, it's painful for me to play with her and I try to gently encourage her to use a tuner. When she steps out for a smoke or bathroom break I quickly fix her tuning and she's none the wiser...

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    Quote Originally Posted by gochugogi View Post
    I have a friend that thinks she can tune by ear, and she does get it in the ball park but always between an 1/8 and 1/4 tone sharp. But, yeah, it's painful for me to play with her and I try to gently encourage her to use a tuner. When she steps out for a smoke or bathroom break I quickly fix her tuning and she's none the wiser...
    ...unless, of course, she joined the UU Forum yesterday...

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    I'll tune by ear when I'm trying out ukes in a music shop, but I'll usually double check with my phone. Sometimes I'm close, sometimes not. I'll usually listen for the "my dog has fleas" rather than fretting one string to the next open string - you know, just for the challenge. I'm always up for the challenge, but I'm not winning.
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    Just kidding there, Peter! I remember back in the early seventies, my band utilized two guitar players and a bass player, we didn't have electronic tuners, and honestly I'm not sure we'd even heard of them! We'd just show up to the gig, and knowing we'd all been doing last-minute private practicing of some of our tunes "with the record", it was likely that we were all pretty close to the same range tuning-wise, and from there we'd all just start plucking open-string notes (sort of like a symphony orchestra getting tuned up), looking at each other, until we collectively agreed that we were all where we needed to be. And although we did insist on precision tuning, Lord knows how much "drift" might've taken place during each set, but we'd re-check occasionally, in between tunes, to make sure we were still "good". It's entirely possible that at the beginning of the night we were in tune with each other at a specific reference level ("440" or whatever), and that by the end of the night we were still in tune WITH EACH OTHER, but at a little bit lower reference level, and the "drop" probably went unnoticed because it was so gradual !!

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