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Thread: Action over the 12th fret

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    Quote Originally Posted by prb035 View Post
    How is the height measured? Is it above or below the string?
    From the bottom of the string to the top of the fret.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sequoia View Post
    From the bottom of the string to the top of the fret.
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    Happy to be an Intermediate Newbie, Penny

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    Always amuses me when I hear folk saying that their instrument has super low action and zero! buzz!
    Try plucking it so that people can actually hear it, you'll get plenty of buzz. . . . or as I like to say, there's no such thing as a buzz free instrument. Well perhaps with 20 mm action there's a chance it will be buzz free.

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    My int is that this idea of a sub 2.5mm action at the 12th fret is 'new'. 20 years ago 3mm was the norm on the instruments I sent out to Hawaii...

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    As a player/performer I find that on a soprano 2.5-2.7mm at the 12th is about right. 3mm makes accurate playing on frets 7-10 (and occasionally even on the 12th) too awkward. Anything below 2.5 mm creates rattles with my playing style. I'd guess something like 2.7mm on a tenor would produce the same string geometry.

    But I think the player's style is the driver. I met Jake Shimabukuro at the weekend and he played one of my own build sopranos in the dressing room. He didn't attempt any runs at the speed he plays on stage (of course, he might not have been trying to do so), but watching him perform I'd guess he needs 2mm at the 12th and high tension strings for what he plays.

    That style really wasn't around 20 years ago, and if you keep to the lower 7 frets then 3mm is perfectly comfortable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ProfChris View Post
    As a player/performer I find that on a soprano 2.5-2.7mm at the 12th is about right. 3mm makes accurate playing on frets 7-10 (and occasionally even on the 12th) too awkward. Anything below 2.5 mm creates rattles with my playing style. I'd guess something like 2.7mm on a tenor would produce the same string geometry.

    But I think the player's style is the driver. I met Jake Shimabukuro at the weekend and he played one of my own build sopranos in the dressing room. He didn't attempt any runs at the speed he plays on stage (of course, he might not have been trying to do so), but watching him perform I'd guess he needs 2mm at the 12th and high tension strings for what he plays.

    That style really wasn't around 20 years ago, and if you keep to the lower 7 frets then 3mm is perfectly comfortable.
    It would have been interesting to hear from Jake what height he likes!

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    Why? Jake isn't the only player out there who plays above the 1st harmonic and those that do need a fairly generous action because they are thrashing the instrument (generally).

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