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    broomstick neck profiles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bratsche View Post
    Okay, I'll start a topic.

    We all like to talk about what things we love the most about our instruments. But being the diverse group that all humanity falls into, we also know that what one person loves, another may hate just as passionately.

    Without getting personal (please, let's not bash any brands or makers here), and assuming the hypothetical instrument is your preferred size, already sounds as great as you'd hoped, and price is no object (don't hate something because you can't afford it!), what specific "feature" on a ukulele would make you wrinkle your nose and say "No, thanks!" more than anything else?

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    Bridge pins... I have a couple of instruments that have them but I had to work really hard to look past it.
    Heavy headstock (unbalanced body.. common with super sopranos)

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    Nice question.
    For me it's....................... extended fretboards (12+ frets). So many nice soprano ukes have them (Kiwayas, Kamakas etc.), but they're in the way of my strumming, and they hurt my nails, I play classical guitar too, and take a lot of trouble to keep my nails in order.

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    My deal breakers are as follows.....flat fretboard, small thin fret wires and a skinny shallow neck. It all boils down to playability and what I have found that works best for me.
    Currently enjoying these ukuleles : *LdfM tenor, *LfdM 19" super tenor. *LfdM baritone, *I'iwi tenor , *Koolau tenor, *Webber tenor, *Kimo tenor, *Kimo super concert, *Mya Moe baritone, *Kamaka baritone, *Gianinni baritone, *Fred Shields super soprano, *Kala super soprano, *Loprinzi super soprano, *Black bear ULO concert , *Enya X1 concert, *Enya X1 pineapple soprano, *Gretsch tenor, *Korala plastic concert

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    Good thread topic, bratsche!

    I won't go into defects....

    Features that break the deal?

    Fat, round baseball bat necks. Ouch!
    Mother of pearl fretboards, UGH!
    Pin bridges. A friend of mine builds all his ukes with them. I won't buy one from him.
    Too heavy headstocks, bleah.
    Pre-amps that take a 9V battery. No, no, no.
    Sharply pointed neck butts, Ouch, again.
    Friction tuners....although If I loved the uke enough, I'd buy it and change them to planetary tuners.
    Great big Mickey Mouse ear tuners sticking out the sides. Ugaleeee!
    Thick finishes, paint. Yuck!
    Rounded potato bug back, especially plastic. What for?

    That's enough!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bobhost View Post
    Intonation. Oh, you said it already sounds great.
    Then there is no deal breaker.
    If it were from a warped or twisted neck, I'd agree. But if bad intonation were fixable....I'd fix it. Let's just say that personally, I'm surprised that these big, reputable sellers don't include those necessary adjustments as part of their awesome setups. I've had to compensate the saddles on two secondhand ukes that originated from the big uke sellers and that sounded nice otherwise, so that they now play in tune. Took about 1/2 hour with a file each time. Mandolin family instruments come with compensation, and it would be ludicrous if they didn't. Why not ukes? Romero Creations have it.

    I haven't weighed in on this topic I started, but I see a lot of people mentioned things I agree with. But if a thing is easily changed, such as buying a hard case for something that came in a gig bag, or tuner styles, or fixable intonation issues, I wouldn't consider those the absolute end. I'd save that for the unalterable features.

    I don't like excessive inlay or bling, onboard electronics that required cutting into the instrument - or even side sound ports, for that matter. No cutaways, either. And I dislike any fretboard that isn't ebony or really dark rosewood. Those would be my deal-breakers.

    Still waiting for Jerryc41 to weigh in. I am curious to know if he even has any deal-breakers.

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    Interesting the list developing here. Not a fan of the pin bridges either, but might live with it on the right instrument.

    Forgot about extended fretboards on sopranos.

    I'm going to assume the gig bag comment is a joke? "OMG! It's my dream uke and I'll never see one like it again! I've been looking for this exact ukulele for years! I'm in love! Oh, but it comes with a gig bag? Forget it."

    Even friction pegs or cheap tuners are easy to change unless it's a super cheap uke that isn't worth upgrading. I guess it depends on how much you like the rest of the ukulele and how unique it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by glennerd View Post
    Interesting the list developing here. Not a fan of the pin bridges either, but might live with it on the right instrument.

    Forgot about extended fretboards on sopranos.

    I'm going to assume the gig bag comment is a joke? "OMG! It's my dream uke and I'll never see one like it again! I've been looking for this exact ukulele for years! I'm in love! Oh, but it comes with a gig bag? Forget it."

    Even friction pegs or cheap tuners are easy to change unless it's a super cheap uke that isn't worth upgrading. I guess it depends on how much you like the rest of the ukulele and how unique it is.
    Ha Ha ! Couldn’t agree more Glenn.
    Just bought a Rebel Mango Super Concert Uke that came with the ugliest , most god awful gig bag known to mankind but it didn’t stop me spending good money on buying the Uke.

    I do dislike ALL right handed strung Uke’s though as I’m left handed.

    Jon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ubulele View Post
    Friction tuners (including UPTs)!
    Radiused fretboard—though it makes barring slightly easier, otherwise it's a decided liability
    Fewer than 17 frets
    String-through bridge (a pin bridge is a different story)
    Body-defacing factory electronics (though I've caved to get cutaways, and to have amped options)
    Gaudy decoration and unnatural colors—okay for a cheap, "fun" uke only
    Performer signatures in permanent marker

    In recent years I've been passing up ukes that have standard width (35mm) nuts. Give me a wider nut and commensurately wider string spacing.

    I've passed up most ukes that lacked side-of-fretboard markers, the ones that are truly functional. But the lack of them does allow me to install markers in a pattern I find clearer and less cluttered, so I'm changing my mind. Still, it does mean extra cost to have markers installed, which I have to factor in.
    Ubulele,
    I'm curious as to why a radiused fretboard is a liability???
    Will you share that with us?
    I really fancy mine.
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    My dealbreakers are any of the following:
    1) closed-gear tuners
    2) Pono- or Kala-style neck profile
    3) narrow nut width (or narrow string spacing)
    4) tightly radiused fingerboard

    I know several of these can be addressed quite easily, but I'm finicky.
    Last edited by bacchettadavid; 05-29-2019 at 06:17 PM. Reason: Slotted headstocks aren’t an absolute dealbreaker
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