View Poll Results: How's your Search Success?

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  • I have great success using Search!

    11 26.19%
  • I have mediocre success using Search.

    25 59.52%
  • I have poor success using Search.

    5 11.90%
  • Search? What? Nobody told me about a scavenger hunt!

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Thread: Search function poll

  1. #1
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    Default Search Function Poll

    After reading many threads, I often see suggestions to Noobs to use the search function of this Forum. Personally, I have mixed results with searches. Take "ukulele instruction" and "beginner ukuleles" I get good results (i.e. one page). But, try "low g string" or just "low g" and nothing useful (500 post, 20 pages). The search defaults to "string". I don't know about you, but I don't have the patience to look through 500 post to find an answer. I realize that my mixed results could be my ignorance on properly using the search function (not using proper keywords). Anyway, what have been your results? Any suggestions? I think a lot (not all) of noob questions get asked not from being lazy, but out of frustration IMHO.
    Last edited by kailua; 05-30-2009 at 08:36 AM.

  2. #2
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    I try to use the search function as much as I can before I ask. But I get frustrated and finally post to find out that I must be doing something wrong. I usually get an answer by some one that searches and finds what I was looking for using the search. So I have come to the conclusion that it must be the way I use it. Like all things I am sure I will figure it out

  3. #3
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    The search function could use a little streamlining. For example, I just typed in strings. I realize strings is a pretty broad search but... this is the first result

    How many ladies play tenors...whaa

    Typed in Low G String

    a bunch of posts about guitars for sale...ok

    How many ladies play tenors... again

    This poll ...lol

    This was using the basic search function. Using the advanced search function helps a bit.

  4. #4
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    Forum users will have more success if they learn how to use "full text Boolean" syntax/parameters to phrase their searches.

    A FAQ or sticky on search engine syntax would be helpful.

    Examples of searches using parameters might be:
    • Kala AND Pono (to find threads with both Kala and Pono)
    • Kala OR Pono (to find threads with either Kala or Pono)
    • Kala NOT Makala AND Kala NOT Pono (to find threads with Kala but not Makala or Pono)
    • You can also type words in double quotes to search for an exact phrase.


    A limitation is that the search engine doesn't like words of three characters or less.

    Using the example of the OP:
    A search for low g string will turn up 20+ pages of results because the search does not recognize the workds "low" or "g" because they are too short (under three characters). So the search engine is only seeing and searching for the word string.

    But...

    a search for "low g string" (in double quotes) turns up 3 or 4 pages of results. It's a search on the same words, but the search is "phrased" differently.

  5. #5
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    I took a course in college about using search engines and databases (I needed an extra credit to stay full time), so I know how to use the search button all too well.

    Personally, I'm sure 90% of the repeat questions are because people don't use the search. Not to say that people are lazy, it's just that way with every other forum that's ever existed.

    I've seen sites that force new users to review the searching procedure, and it still happens. It'll always be that way, and there'll always be people who'll snap and scream at the people that do it. It's what makes the internet such a wonderful place.

  6. #6
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    I have not had a problem using the search engine. It is great with finding out what I am looking for.
    UKES 4 KIDS

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    search function is fantastic

  8. #8
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    Hot tip: If the vbulletin standard search isn't getting you the results you're after, try google!

    site:ukuleleunderground.com/forum/ <search terms>

    Give it a shot

    If you want to persuade the site admins to improve the built in search function, I'd recommend that the sphinxsearch plugin be looked at

  9. #9
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    Search engines are quirky at best yet will yield useful results if formatted properly.

    When first joing the UU forum, I wanted to post a link to the Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain's version of the Good, the Bad & the Ugly. Before doing so, I searched to see that this wasn't a duplicate effort.

    So I searched Good, Bad & Ugly (in a variety of formats and quotation marks and who know what-all). Got a lot of info about good ukes, bad ukes, and ugly ukes.

    Searched Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain. Got nothing.

    So I posted the YouTube link. Got a handful of "This is old news" responses.

    Search engines require the database to be set up properly, the user to enter keywords according to the database format, and all three parts (user, database, keywords) to function together. There are commonalities, but no hard/fast rules for all. It's getting better.
    Harold O.

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    www.WestHillsWood.com
    Just because shooting fish in a barrel is easy doesn't mean there are some fish that should remain unshot.

  10. #10
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    if you search first and don't find anything. just start a new post and say, "I searched first but didn't find anything"

    That will keep those whiners at bay.
    Rayan, What you are doing?

    I give up with my PM box, just email ryan(at)ukuleleunderground.com

    YES Mahaloz!

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