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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerryc41 View Post
    Sales tax - No; shipping - depends.
    Sales tax "Yes" if you live in California where they are based and order from them directly. No if you order from Mim's, HMS, ... and do not live in their states.

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    It all depends on the market. If there are buyers who are willing to buy a slightly discounted Blackbird, then the discounts will be small. Personally, I would never buy a used ukulele without a hefty discount over a new one, and nothing less than Mint without the price being quite slashed. You can never truly know the condition of a used uke, and that unknown to me is worth a lot of $. But if there are people willing to pay more, it makes no sense to sell for less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AQUATOPAZ View Post
    It all depends on the market. If there are buyers who are willing to buy a slightly discounted Blackbird, then the discounts will be small. Personally, I would never buy a used ukulele without a hefty discount over a new one, and nothing less than Mint without the price being quite slashed. You can never truly know the condition of a used uke, and that unknown to me is worth a lot of $. But if there are people willing to pay more, it makes no sense to sell for less.
    I'm in agreement. Not saying I would never buy a used ukulele, but I would always wonder why someone was selling such a "great ukulele," and why they "hardly ever played it."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rllink View Post
    I'm in agreement. Not saying I would never buy a used ukulele, but I would always wonder why someone was selling such a "great ukulele," and why they "hardly ever played it."
    I've bought used, and haven't regretted any of the purchases. All were from UU.

    Hardly ever played could be for a number of reasons. Maybe they were trying a different size ukulele, and it wasn't comfortable for them. Maybe the neck didn't work for them. Maybe "life is what happens while you're busy making other plans", and time was demanded elsewhere. Maybe it's a great ukulele, but just not for that particular person. Lots of possible reasons.

    I also don't mind if someone else enjoyed a ukulele for a while before I buy it from them, as long as it's still in excellent condition, which all my UU purchases have been. If it's been well cared for, it still might be in better condition than buying one from a music store where people wander in, bang around on the instrument for a while, with no concern about the instrument itself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rainbow21 View Post
    Sales tax "Yes" if you live in California where they are based and order from them directly. No if you order from Mim's, HMS, ... and do not live in their states.
    I was thinking more along the lines of sales from individuals, rather than businesses. eBay now adds sales tax - not sure about Reverb. It used to be that if a business had a nexus in another state, it had to collect sales tax. (Nexus, also called “sufficient physical presence,” is a legal term that refers to the requirement for companies doing business in a state to collect and pay tax on sales in that state. For example, if you sell goods or services in Los Angeles, you must file and pay California state taxes.) Now, I think any business will be obligated to collect sales tax on out-of-state sales. UU and Fleamarketmusic don't collect tax.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyful Uke View Post
    I've bought used, and haven't regretted any of the purchases. All were from UU.

    Hardly ever played could be for a number of reasons. Maybe they were trying a different size ukulele, and it wasn't comfortable for them. Maybe the neck didn't work for them. Maybe "life is what happens while you're busy making other plans", and time was demanded elsewhere. Maybe it's a great ukulele, but just not for that particular person. Lots of possible reasons.

    I also don't mind if someone else enjoyed a ukulele for a while before I buy it from them, as long as it's still in excellent condition, which all my UU purchases have been. If it's been well cared for, it still might be in better condition than buying one from a music store where people wander in, bang around on the instrument for a while, with no concern about the instrument itself.
    Yes, I understand where you are coming from, just not the way I like to do it. I'm not saying that I wouldn't buy used, under the right circumstances I might. But I'm speaking my own opinion with the original post in mind. Others may certainly have their own.
    I don't want to live in a world that is linear.

    I just want everyone to understand that I am not a ukulele expert, even though it may look at times like I'm pretending to be.

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    The Supreme Court ruled that states can collect sales tax on online sales even though there is no physical presence in the state.

    The rub is how states implement the ruling (obviously some states have no sales tax) and if there are thresholds that need to be met to trigger the tax. I have made recent purchases off eBay and have not been charged sales tax on some purchases.

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