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    And there you have proved the thought. I could move the four tuners to the positions of your four bottom tuners and trim 2-4cm as you say. I also notice you have angled the tuners in slightly as you move up the head stock to ensure the strings do not catch on the tuners below. I was thinking to do this but had not seen it on any other Uke.

    Was thinking to use some dowel to fill the bottom tuner holes - and I will be trimming off the top tuner holes.

    I will give this a go and let you all know how it turns out.

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    And there you have proved the thought. I could move the four tuners to the positions of your four bottom tuners and trim 2-4cm as you say. I also notice you have angled the tuners in slightly as you move up the head stock to ensure the strings do not catch on the tuners below. I was thinking to do this but had not seen it on any other Uke.

    Was thinking to use some dowel to fill the bottom tuner holes - and I will be trimming off the top tuner holes.

    I will give this a go and let you all know how it turns out.

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    I have only made a small number of ukes and still learning, but here is my copy of a soprano Kala travel. I did shorten the head on it, as you can see. Overall length is 20 3/8". I could get it down to 20" if I removed the little nub but I kind of like the look of it and provides a barely big enough place to hold a tuner. Kala lists theirs as being 21.0625". Scale length is 340mm - about 13.386". Kala is 13.5625".

    So for me, it was a combination of a slightly shorter scale and a smaller head. Oh yeah - I also placed the tuner holes a bit closer together and closer to the nut. You could do that but this seems a bit messy to me for an existing instrument. As I posted above, I don't see any problems (other than finish) with removing a bit of the top of the head on your Kala. I do believe that I would.

    Uke 4.jpg
    Last edited by eclipsme; 09-09-2019 at 01:11 AM. Reason: added info on tuner holes.

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    Hi, eclipsme! Thank you for sharing your soprano. Very cool!

    Hi, robinfowler!

    Now we have ukulele with 4 strings (A in the figure below). When we have 6 strings (B), we need compensation. In general, cheep guitar (C) has compensation. On the other hand expensive guitars and ukuleles have crown shape head stock and not much compensation (D). Hence you just need to think about appearance about the laws of tuners. Vertical string angle (E) is important for the nut. It prevent buzz on the nut. We just need to check it of the 1st and 4th strings, because they are near the nut. And the strings of these area (blue arrows on E and F) work, when bending. I think we need not much care about this length on travel ukulele. And there are some headless guitars which have nothing this area.


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    Quote Originally Posted by eclipsme View Post
    I have only made a small number of ukes and still learning, but here is my copy of a soprano Kala travel. I did shorten the head on it, as you can see. Overall length is 20 3/8". I could get it down to 20" if I removed the little nub but I kind of like the look of it and provides a barely big enough place to hold a tuner. Kala lists theirs as being 21.0625". Scale length is 340mm - about 13.386". Kala is 13.5625".

    So for me, it was a combination of a slightly shorter scale and a smaller head. Oh yeah - I also placed the tuner holes a bit closer together and closer to the nut. You could do that but this seems a bit messy to me for an existing instrument. As I posted above, I don't see any problems (other than finish) with removing a bit of the top of the head on your Kala. I do believe that I would.

    Uke 4.jpg
    That is beautiful. It looks great. The thing about moving the tuner holes, at least in yahalele's photo, is that he proposes moving them much closer to the nut than you have and right on the curve on the headstock. It makes more sense to move the tuners closer together than to drop them as low as in this photo yahalele supplied.
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    Another option is Gotoh Stealth keys. They are only 12g. We can install them on the front surface of our ukulele (see the fig.3 below), hence we need not drill new holes. Ukulele ones are bit different from guitars in terms of shaft. I've installed them on my Martin backpacker. As they are very light, now it is very good valance. They a build to order manufacturing. It takes about three weeks even in Japan.

    Last edited by yahalele; 09-09-2019 at 12:40 PM.

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    If you look at the headstock of the Kinnard Z headstock http://www.kinnardukes.com/photo-gallery--2.html
    the tuners are not in 2 parallel lines but go diagonally across. Perhaps using a friction type tuner would give you more real estate for the tuners.
    K
    Sopranos, Concerts, and Tenors including Baritone body at a Tenor Scale - 4 String, 5 String and 8 String :-)

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    CIMG5406.jpg I think I cut this too short.
    " Anything larger than a soprano is cheating "
    " I'm no luthier but ,........"

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    Let's go to Cigar Box Nation to see many good and interesting ideas of head stock.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Pukulele Pete View Post
    CIMG5406.jpg I think I cut this too short.
    Ha-ha! That’s hilarious! There’s no need for a backpack, that would fit in your pocket!
    Happy just to be a Newbie +, Penny

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