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    I was playing my way through this song only yesterday - "Has anybody here seen Hank?" by The Waterboys. So what if they found him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by bird's eye view of my ukelele View Post
    i had a feeling the theme might be something about songwriting - of course that is all too easy to say NOW, and impossible to prove!!!
    Me, too! I was a bit intimidated by this, Berni ... but I've just had an idea. (Great - if intimidating - theme for the week!)
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    Challenging theme!

    I think that this theme has more obvious ideas from the female perspective, since there are so many objectifying songs out there that need a reply.
    And a lot of examples of reply-songs that has been made with that purpose.

    It is more tricky to do it the other way around. I hope that I manage to get an idea.
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    An actual CHALLENGE for the Season! Love it and your eclectic mind!

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    Just to set the record straight, for option 1, replying to a song using the same song, we have the right to reply in a totally different style, right? As long as the chord progression, the melody and the structure are the same, we're free to do whatever else we want to the song.
    But it must be an existing song that we ourselves didn't write?
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    Quote Originally Posted by UkingViking View Post
    Challenging theme!

    I think that this theme has more obvious ideas from the female perspective, since there are so many objectifying songs out there that need a reply.
    And a lot of examples of reply-songs that has been made with that purpose.

    It is more tricky to do it the other way around. I hope that I manage to get an idea.
    You are probably right, in general. Especially in Blues where men seem to outnumber women by 9-1.
    But there are lots of songs in which the woman moans about her man. Billie Holiday made a career out of them! ��

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joko View Post
    Just to set the record straight, for option 1, replying to a song using the same song, we have the right to reply in a totally different style, right? As long as the chord progression, the melody and the structure are the same, we're free to do whatever else we want to the song.
    But it must be an existing song that we ourselves didn't write?
    I am tempted to say "Thornton Rules" on this one. What I initially envisioned for Option 1 was using the same tune, but with new lyrics that would turn the original lyrics on its head. e.g. the Ghost of Delilah (in the Tom Jones song) justifies her right to have chosen another man who wasn't the possessive selfish bastard who would eventually kill her, thus:

    "In your jealous heart I was nothing but your possession....
    Couldn't you see you were driving me out of my mind?
    You were my lover!
    But I couldn't live in that cage where you'd have me confined!

    Sly, sly, sly, Fernando!
    Why why, why Fernando?" etc.


    The idea in Option One was that budding songwriters might feel they could come up with some lyrics if they already had a tune in their heads.

    However, as long as your entry obviously answers (or debunks) the original that inspired it, then I will consider it fits the theme.... even if you use a different setting, style or even tune.

    Is that any clearer?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tootler View Post
    The usual pattern with a "Reply" song is to follow the format of the original but with new words. It's a bit like a parody song in that respect.
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    option 2 (with a different tune and chords from the original)

    the story of t rex's song "new york city" - from the perspective of the frog

    "did you ever come out of new york city and see marc bolan"



    did you ever come out of new york city and see marc bolan, see marc bolan?
    did you ever come out of new york city and see marc bolan, see marc bolan?
    oh, i was coming out of new york city with my gal
    she's a human but i don't hold that against her. oh no.
    you know, she keeps saying i'll turn into a prince one day
    but i'm happy as i am. happy as i am.
    frogs are very underrated, baby. green is very underrated, baby.
    anyway...
    we were on our way out of new york city, yeah
    and there was that marc bolan, just standing there, standing there
    strumming a guitar. he was strumming a guitar
    he said he'd just had a great idea for a song
    dunno if it ever came to anything though
    did you ever come out of new york city and see marc bolan, see marc bolan?
    did you ever come out of new york city and see marc bolan, see marc bolan?
    did you ever come out of new york city and see marc bolan, see marc bolan?
    did you ever come out of new york city and see marc bolan, see marc bolan?
    i did, don't you know
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    Melanie Safka covered this song as did many others including Leon Russell. Leon rocked it up and changed the lyrics a bit. When I was a young punk playing in a rock band we did a cover of Leon's cover. It sounded something like this.

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    for anyone wanting to check out melanie safka's music, there is a nice 26 minute TV "in concert" programme vid on youtube...

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