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  1. #121
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnicholes View Post
    I HATE THE FACT THIS FORUM MAY GO DOWN!!!!

    I was just getting a lot of friends, having good interaction, and having a great time. Now, all that is being taken from me. ITS NOT FAIR!

    It's like everything is against me!
    Jared,

    I know you are upset. A lot of us feel the same way. Many people have expressed what you are feeling, just with different words. The Forum is like a family to us, and it’s scary to think that we might all become orphans. But this thread is long, there have been many good suggestions, people are willing to help financially, and the mods are willing to listen. Because of the ongoing discussion, I am hopeful that the Forum will survive. So hang in there for now. We’re all in this together. We just need time, and faith, that a satisfactory solution will be found.

    Jan
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeteS View Post
    I did install Discord on my computer but as well as being dark and,for myself with rubbish eyesight,hard to read I was a bit at a loss with it. Being a 76 year old computer dinosaur it was confusing to me and seemed intrusive so I uninstalled it. I will be putting it on my tablet which for some reason I find easier to use when trying something different.
    Changing the screen to white doesn’t make Discord much better but I’ll paste the instructions I posted a few pages back:

    Click the "gear" symbol down on the bottom left of the screen for the settings.

    In "settings" page, click "Appearance" near the bottom left of the screen.

    Select "Light" theme.

    Click the "X" on the top right of the screen to go back to the forum.

    Hopefully that translates to whatever you’re viewing it on.

    (Edit: only relevant on the web browser version.)
    Last edited by glennerd; 03-30-2020 at 04:54 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan D View Post
    ... ...But this thread is long, there have been many good suggestions, people are willing to help financially, and the mods are willing to listen. Because of the ongoing discussion, I am hopeful that the Forum will survive. So hang in there for now. We’re all in this together. We just need time, and faith, that a satisfactory solution will be found....
    Yesssssss!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed1 View Post
    I hope everything can be worked out here. But if not, there is always the option of creating our own. I believe this site is running on vBulletin. Letting that company do all the work of setup and maintenance could cost about $800/yr. If there are other costs, the vBulletin web site doesn't mention them. That certainly isn't $xx,xxx.
    This was my reaction as well when I heard the news. I immediately started researching how to setup and host your own forum. Didn't get that far since Rayan already mentioned he's already looking into alternatives. I think it's better to have a forum under an established brand (UU in this case) rather than have some random community members put up one since it will gather much more interest from people that way. But depending on how the situation develops I may look into it more.

    That ~$800/year cost for vBulletin is for the gold level cloud version of the software which means that vBulletin would handle all the hosting, upgrading, etc. so there shouldn't be any more costs for it. Then again, I've no idea if the bandwidth limit for that gold plan is enough. Also all the plans have a storage limit of 100GB which I'm guessing wouldn't be enough which means you'd probably have to negotiate a custom plan with vBulletin. They do offer a one time payment for a license but then you have to host the software yourself, as I believe UU is doing currently. The issue there is that on top of the hosting and database costs you also need to maintain and update the software which is far from trivial. Also, updating to a newer version of vBulletin also has a fee which I'm guessing is the reason for UU not doing it before.

    There's quite a number of free open source forum software available that should have better moderating and security features than this version of vBulletin. Obviously you need to host those yourself but even hosting has quite a few alternatives to just buying server capacity. For example, some cloud providers like Azure already support at least certain forum software for relatively easy setup. I'm personally looking into something like that if this forum goes belly up.
    Last edited by Dohle; 03-29-2020 at 09:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjh42 View Post
    I have read through the posts. I have signed up at Discord.........The irony of the name
    Yes! Strange choice for a "friendship" forum.
    Too many ukes, but I can't stop buying!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dohle View Post
    There's quite a number of free open source forum software available that should have better moderating and security features than this version of vBulletin. Obviously you need to host those yourself but even hosting has quite a few alternatives to just buying server capacity. For example, some cloud providers like Azure already support at least certain forum software for relatively easy setup. I'm personally looking into something like that if this forum goes belly up.
    Well, if UU doesn't keep this going, there are many options to explore. About 25 years ago I created a non-profit (the Board becomes a group of caring people) for the sole purpose of having a web site (to educate the public on an issue). In those days, what we would call "the cloud" today was too expensive so we created our own web site and kept the server under my desk. After a decade, I bowed out and gave it to the board, including the domain name. Those folks are still involved and keep it going. I wouldn't recommend that approach today; It would be best to let others setup, maintain, and keep it secure.

    So, if some folks (five to ten is a good number) created a US non-profit for the purpose of educating the public on the importance of music in their lives (especially the ukulele :-), many things not thought of could happen. For example, perhaps UU would donate the "use" (not the ownership) of this forum to the non-profit which would pay the cost and maintenance of the site, would administer it, and would use it as the basis for educating others.

    I hope I'm not hijacking this thread. I only put this out as one of many things that could happen if UU isn't able to keep this forum alive. I prefer not to have everyone scatter to the four winds of the internet if the forum closes.

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    What does one get from the VIP membership?
    I don't want to live in a world that is linear.

    I just want everyone to understand that I am not a ukulele expert, even though it may look at times like I'm pretending to be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rllink View Post
    What does one get from the VIP membership?
    You are contributing to keeping the forum going. You do get more space for PMs and there is a VIP section of the forum but it's basically a way of helping to pay for the upkeep of the forum. I joined not long after joining UU. I felt the forum was worth contributing to keep it going and I still do.

    The advantage of a forum over a chat room IMO is that it is asynchronous as as UU's membership spans the globe, literally with members on every continent, the problem with chat is a topic can have moved on before you had time to see it because it started on the other side of the world. With a forum your posts are still there when you get up and you can contribute often over a quite considerable period of time. With a chat site, it's gone. Anyone who is regular on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram etc. will be aware of that key difference.
    Geoff Walker

    I have several ukuleles in various sizes and am not planning on getting any more...

    at least, not yet.

    I also play some blowy things and a squeezy thing

    Internet:
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    I should have added my thanks to Rayan and the mods. I don't just play ukulele but there is no forum quite like this for the other instruments I play nor for my wider musical interests.
    Geoff Walker

    I have several ukuleles in various sizes and am not planning on getting any more...

    at least, not yet.

    I also play some blowy things and a squeezy thing

    Internet:
    You Tube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/TootlinGeoff
    Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/tootlingeoff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan D View Post
    Jared,

    I know you are upset. A lot of us feel the same way. Many people have expressed what you are feeling, just with different words. The Forum is like a family to us, and it’s scary to think that we might all become orphans. But this thread is long, there have been many good suggestions, people are willing to help financially, and the mods are willing to listen. Because of the ongoing discussion, I am hopeful that the Forum will survive. So hang in there for now. We’re all in this together. We just need time, and faith, that a satisfactory solution will be found.

    Jan
    Thanks for saying that. About yesterday, I was quite upset. Under a lot of stress because of many things. This Forum was just one thing.

    I apologize about my outburst yesterday.

    Jared

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