Tune a Guitalele E to E like a guitar?

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I know a guitalele is "suppose" to be tuned A to A, just like a full size guitar with a capo on the 5th fret. But can a guitalele be tuned E to E like a regular guitar?
 
Definitely doable with a baritone scale guitalele - 19" or 20" scale. For 17" tenor scale, my opinion is "no" E tuning doesn't work unless you're willing to do a reentrant tuning where the bottom 3 strings are tuned an octave higher (with appropriate strings of course)
 
I have tuned my D-VI E to E, using classical guitar strings. It is based on a tenor scale. It does work, but the tension is too low to be comfortable.

There are string sets that are set up for a 19" scale length.

G to G is another tuning, you can try.

I keep coming back to A to A because it is not E to E. You can deal with it at several ways:
1. You can play it as a transposing instrument using guitar arrangements that will sound a fifth interval higher.
2. You can play it just like your GCEA uke without touching the low strings.
3. You can play it A to A, with the middle C at fret 5 of the G string and the open C string, which is a C4 note. This moves the centre of gravity of the music to get a completely different voicing to what you get on a guitar. And allows you to put some of the treble parts into the low ADG strings, which you might not do on a guitar.
4. You can play it A to A, with the middle C at fret 3 of the low A string. This is a C3 note and moves the music down a whole octave. Giving another voicing option for your music. So you might play most of a tune on the ADGC strings and leave the high E and A alone altogether, sort of the reverse to playing a tune on a guitar on the DGBE strings. Because it is ADGC, it does not sound too low.

So I think keeping the piccolo guitar or guitarlele in A to A tuning is better than trying to tune it E to E, it is voiced in a higher part of the musical note range, much closer to human voice than the E to E, and offers some interesting voicings and options if you take the time to arrange the music to take advantage of the voicings.

I got round this A to A on my ex Kala guitarlele by selling it and buying a half size classical guitar and restringing it .Ditching the highest string and starting with what was the "B" string and using it as the high E and so on. The bass E is a roundwound acoustic guitar string. So far the thing plays nicely,the Classical Guitar Police haven't paid a visit and it only cost about £34.00 and that's 70 squid cheaper than the Lunar Baritone 6 er......which has some poor reviews. The reason for changing the strings was that the half pint would only tune G to g comfortably on the ears and although it would happily do A to a it was far too tinny sounding. Plus I obviously wanted E to e.
 
I've tried tuning my mini E-E, but while it was OK, it's just not great. Currently I am using Daddario EJ27N 3/4 strings tuned to G-G, and it sounds way better. The best part is that these strings are very inexpensive, around $5.00- $6.00 a set.
 
Hello,
I spent years trying each and every string set to tune my gretsch guitalele E to E, with no satisfying results. Nonetheless, it is possible with the five last strings of any set plus an extra low B string tuned to E. Or, even better, you can purchase a Pyramid string set for 7 string guitar and skip the first e string : you've got six strings from B to b that you tune a fourth higher, from E to e; the thicker gauge compensates for the small scale. You may have to tweak a little the slot at the nut to accomodate the thick B string but if you're careful enough its no big deal.
Hope this helps,
Cheers.
 
On my 20" baritone-sized Pono, you can tune E-e using the D'Addario hard tension strings that come on it, or better yet, use the D'Addario extra hard tension strings.
 
I should also mention that I liked the Daddario EJ27N 3/4 strings so much I purchased another 6 sets, because my Cordoba Mini was living in my car, and getting a lot of playing time whenever I got to work early, or when I was waiting while my wife was shopping. Then the Pandemic hit, I was furloughed, locked down at home, and my car just sits in the driveway.

So having all those sets of Daddario EJ27N 3/4 string, sitting around, I threw a set on my Esteve Requinto guitar that has a 535mm scale. What a pleasent surprise. They sounded really good tuned E-E, and produced a nice balanced warm tone. Also they are about 1/3 the cost of the Romero UG2 strings I had been previously using on this guitar.

Meanwhile the Cordoba Mini is languishing in the closet waiting for better times.
 
Cordoba Mini M = 20" Scale

Cordoba Mini II = 22.875" Scale

I does make a difference which model you are referring to...
 
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On one of my Cordoba Mini M, I now have a set of D'Addario EJ44 extra hard tuned in E(after recommendations on the i-net) and they sound very good. I haven't compared with the dedicated strings yet, as my other Mini M is without strings for the moment.
 
On one of my Cordoba Mini M, I now have a set of D'Addario EJ44 extra hard tuned in E(after recommendations on the i-net) and they sound very good. I haven't compared with the dedicated strings yet, as my other Mini M is without strings for the moment.

Poul… Did you have to file the nut to accommodate the D'Addario EJ44 strings?
 
Sorry, I don't remember, I'm working at so many instruments at the same time. I think not,.

EDIT: I just checked with the bridge from the other one and the strings fit directly, no setup necessary.
 
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Thanks Poul...I'll give those EJ44 strings a try on my 20" scale Kanile'a GL-6.

EDIT: Are the EJ44's under a good tension on the 20" scale Cordoba Mini M...or are they a little on the floppy side?
 
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Thanks Poul...I'll give those EJ44 strings a try on my 20" scale Kanile'a GL-6.

EDIT: Are the EJ44's under a good tension on the 20" scale Cordoba Mini M...or are they a little on the floppy side?

Yes, almost as tight as the EJ45s on my full scale classical.
 
Yes you can, but what's the point? You just end up with a small scale guitar. Fine if you don't already have a guitar I suppose...
 
On my 20" baritone-sized Pono, you can tune E-e using the D'Addario hard tension strings that come on it, or better yet, use the D'Addario extra hard tension strings.

I did exactly that with my Caramel baritone-sized guitalele, also tuned in standard. The stock strings weren't very good and felt pretty floppy, but once I switched to the D'Addario hard tension strings, it came to life. When I tried to tune up, however, even by half a step, the high E would snap in a few days. It seems though that generally the D'Addario hard or extra hard tension work quite well on the 20" scale guitaleles tuned in standard.
 
It absolutely can be tuned to standard guitar tuning.

I purchased a couple Harley Benton "guitarleles" from Thomann, and also some Pyramid 344 200 guitar strings, a set made for 7 string classical. The Harley Benton GL-2NT guitarlele is nearly identical in dimensions to Yamaha GL-1 with scale length of 433mm, just a hair over 17".

I tossed the high E string of the Pyramid set and used the rest on the guitalele. The remaining strings are gauged high to low .032", .038", .029"w, .035"w, .045"w, .054"w. It works well. The most notable difference on the Harley Benton is that the .038" B string needs for the saddle to be compensated more for intonation. Volume is reasonable, strings aren't floppy. The Pyramid string set was really inexpensive when I ordered from Thomann, but is thankfully also available here in the US relatively economically.

I declare success.

I also procured a set of strings from Chinese brand Alice, set number ACB112, marketed for "Quint Bass 6 String Guitar", a large guitar with a 700mm-ish scale(about 27.5"), tuned to A or B below standard guitar. These are gauges, high to low, .032", .040", .033"w, .041"w, .048"w, .061"w. Significantly heavier set, which I have yet to try. The Alice brand of strings is usually only found from Aliexpress vendors direct from China, but I actually got mine from California-based kinda oddball folk instrument vendor, Lark In The Morning. Despite being pretty uncommon, even on Aliexpress, they weren't very expensive. Jury still out on this set.
 
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Cordoba Mini M = 20" Scale

Cordoba Mini II = 22.875" Scale

I does make a difference which model you are referring to...

Mine is a Cordoba Mini M, and I still think it sounds best tuned G-G regardless of the choice of strings, and I have tried a lot trying to get acceptable results tuned E-E.

Also it's not just a function of scale length, small body guitars have their limits baked in before you ever put a set of strings on them.
 
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