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    Quote Originally Posted by ksiegel View Post
    IF the mask isn't fitted to the individual, it doesn't matter.

    I spent 24 years as a firefighter/paramedic, ran the county HazMat Team, and spent 2 weeks with the Upstate NY Search & Rescue Team at Ground Zero.

    If the mask you wear isn't fit tested, it may or may not work. It is like wearing a Self Contained Breathing Apparatus (SCBA) face piece with bad seal. It helps, but not necessarily enough.

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    I get that if it's not fit tested, it's likely not as good as the real deal, (assuming the real deal has also been fit tested), but helping a bit might be better than nothing at all? (I could be wrong. You've got the expertise.)

    The KN95s I use do have a tight seal. I'm not using them for the situation like the West Coast fires, but as what seems to be a better alternative to either a cloth mask or a medical mask in this COVID world. But, again, you've got expertise that I don't have.

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    I'm here in the Boston area, and the TV news said that smoke from the West Coast fires is actually traveling all the way here, up in the jet stream, at 20-30k feet. My heart goes out to all those affected out there.
    John

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyful Uke View Post
    I get that if it's not fit tested, it's likely not as good as the real deal, (assuming the real deal has also been fit tested), but helping a bit might be better than nothing at all? (I could be wrong. You've got the expertise.)

    The KN95s I use do have a tight seal. I'm not using them for the situation like the West Coast fires, but as what seems to be a better alternative to either a cloth mask or a medical mask in this COVID world. But, again, you've got expertise that I don't have.
    I am with you on this. For a firefighter who is on or near the front line, a fitted mask would be necessary. For use by the public as smoke protection when outside, it should be beneficial, much more than using nothing or a cloth mask. Most of the PPE that they wear for virus protection is not fit tested.

    Yesterday, for a 20 minute trip to a market, I wore an N95 mask for the entire time, including in the car. You can definitely feel some effect as it is harder to breathe in and gets uncomfortable very quickly. (BTW, not hoarding... opened mask packages are not accepted by health care workers and facilities for donation and these were acquired two years ago when smoke was bad from fires then).

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    The updated weather forecast has smoke here till at least Friday. We're Very Unhealthy today instead of Hazardous. I can't tell the difference, but woo hoo, 252 instead of 480! I started out fine, but today I delivered Meals on Wheels and my eyes burn, my nose runs, and I've got a headache, and I was only outside about an hour. I am so lucky to not be working outside or in close quarters, risking catching Covid and increasing the chances of lung issues. And I still have a home and I haven't been evacuated. I've been thinking about the Dust Bowl and the Great Depression lately. If there's one thing this year has made abundantly clear, it's that it can always get worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan D View Post
    Based on my own research earlier today, I discovered that N95 masks are made to American mask standards, which do not require manufacturers to do a fit test. To be certified as a KN95 mask, the Chinese government requires the manufacturer to run fit tests on real humans. So yes, a KN95 mask would be a good alternative to the hard-to-find N95.
    This is wrong - reverse it. I spent 8 years on an isolation unit & got yearly N95 mask fit tests the whole time. KN95s don’t require fit tests. Neither do essential workers outside the medical environment. KN95s are a good alternative for the general public without straining the N95s needed for medical staff.
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    Maybe if the west coast states started considering law and order an important part of society people would not be running around starting fires. I have got a suggestion for you liberal geniuses, start prosecuting criminals. Wow, what a novel idea!

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    That is not an accurate description of what’s going on here. Your post is hurtful rather than helpful and it doesn’t belong in a forum like this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dbhughes View Post
    Maybe if the west coast states started considering law and order an important part of society people would not be running around starting fires. I have got a suggestion for you liberal geniuses, start prosecuting criminals. Wow, what a novel idea!
    This forum does not allow politically inflammatory posts. Your posts have no history of this rule breaking behavior, so instead of a permanent ban, please take seven days off. Thank you.
    Last edited by seeso; 09-15-2020 at 02:26 AM. Reason: Explanation

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    Aside from the ukulele world, the air is bad to breathe, so that's a major problem. You need serious respirator equipment to breathe cleanly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan D View Post
    Based on my own research earlier today, I discovered that N95 masks are made to American mask standards, which do not require manufacturers to do a fit test. To be certified as a KN95 mask, the Chinese government requires the manufacturer to run fit tests on real humans. So yes, a KN95 mask would be a good alternative to the hard-to-find N95.
    And for covid, you don't want a mask with an exhaust valve.
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