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Thread: NUD or NGD : Romero Creations Baritone 6

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    Default NUD or NGD : Romero Creations Baritone 6

    Hi everyone,

    Here to share my joy of getting my hand on this. After owning a few Tenors, concerts and sopranos I decided that I wanted to get a baritone for a fuller sound and have it tuned A to A. As I already have a couple of guitars and mini guitars tuned E to E, my aim was to find one tuned like a uke. So that I can play 4 strings like a uke or if I feel like it play it as a guitar.

    I got this off from someone in my local area and was pleasantly surprised that it was in such mint condition. No dings, scratches or any user marks. It was as if it was brand new. It was definitely babied. The strings were changed and the 3 bass strings squeak a lot. I really need some of your advise on strings as I am totally unfamiliar with 6 strings 20” scale A to A tuning. As far as I can find only Aquila makes a set for the cordoba mini.

    What really amazes me is the playability of this instrument. It is so smooth and easy to play. Fretting is effortless. Only the slightest of touches is required. The action is spot on. I think it only had a factory setup as the original receipt was included in the gig bag and I know this local uke store doesn’t do set ups. So if this is The factory setup I am truly truly impressed. Just to give u an idea, It plays smoother and easier than my Pono Tenor which was set up by the guys at HMS. And my Pono is already so easy to play. And HMS really know how to do a great set up. After playing it I was even more impressed. The sound and sustain is unparalleled to any uke I have played with. It literally just rings. And rings. And it rings all the way up the fretboard until you run out of frets. Truly amazing. In fact right now I am thinking of selling away my KoAloha opio concert with tenor neck as I find the sustain drastically falling off a lot passed the 7th fret and the fretting needing so much more effort. I have played about 10 koalohas (mostly the silvers as I was searching for one) and none come close to playability compared to this. I play mostly finger style picking. My playing ain’t that great (No Talent!) and so with my mistake ridden playing and inaccurate fingering I find the Romero very forgiving whilst the Opio needs very accurate finger placement. Don’t get me wrong I am not trying to discredit the opio but rather highlight what a joy and ease this B6 is to play. The string placement on this is a little narrower than a uke due to the 6 strings. This is also my first baritone and I am still trying to get use to the adjustment to fret width and string placement. For a good sample of how it sounds like do Google Peter Frary. He did a review with a lot of sound samples and it convinced me on buying this. I hope he doesn’t mind me mentioning his name here as he is also in this forum. For the record I don’t know him and never met him before.

    I am using my phone and have no idea how to upload pictures here. Instead I took some photos on my iPhone, used the voice memo to record my playing and put the 2 together in iMovie for a short clip. I noticed that the built in mic in the phone doesn’t do this instrument any justice. There are a few notes that I played a little louder(due to lack of skill) and it came out rather harsh sounding. Including the higher notes. So do pardon my poor playing. Some missed notes and inconsistent tempo. I realised I don’t do this instrument any justice at all!

    https://youtu.be/ZGKn8nCP9BM

    If any of you have suggestions for strings (A to A tuning) please do share. I hope to find some that don’t squeak too! I have been searching for info online and haven’t found much. Thank you.
    Last edited by Contrails; 02-05-2021 at 06:29 AM.
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    Romero Creations Baritone B6

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    Seems like you found a great instrument. Can't help you regarding strings, but I enjoyed your playing, and the baritone sounds and looks great.

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    I don't have specific strings for A-to-A. I find my 19" bari feels and sound great in G-to-G with the Thomastik Infeld CF127 set which are flat wound and squeak much less than anything else I've tried. I'm pretty sure they'd still be fine on 20" but going up another whole tone to A-to-A might be pushing it farther than I'd want to go.

    I still think of this as an A-to-A instrument, so a couple of times when I really needed that, I capoed on 2. But now I have a tenor scale for A-ro-A so don't need to do that with the bari.
    Ukulele:
    Iriguchi Tenor "Weeble" - A, WoU Clarity
    Blue Star 19" baritone Konablaster - DGBE
    Cocobolo 16" SC#1-gCEA, SC SLMU
    Ono #42 19" baritone, Ab, LW
    Imua iET-Bb, M600
    Covered Bridge CLN pineapple - Eb cuatro, SC XLL
    Rogue bari
    Bonanza super tenor, cFAD SC LHU
    Kala KSLNG, Eb SC XLU
    Hanson 5-string tenor, dGCEA
    Bonanza SLN GCEA
    Southern Cross concert GCEA
    Guitars:
    Jupiter #47, G, TI CF127
    Pelem, B reentrant
    Jupiter #71, A, UG1

    !Flukutronic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joyful Uke View Post
    Seems like you found a great instrument. Can't help you regarding strings, but I enjoyed your playing, and the baritone sounds and looks great.
    Yes I think my UAS has finally died.oh wait, hang on, the Romero Creations grand tenor is now on my mind.......
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    Romero Creations Baritone B6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim Hanks View Post
    I don't have specific strings for A-to-A. I find my 19" bari feels and sound great in G-to-G with the Thomastik Infeld CF127 set which are flat wound and squeak much less than anything else I've tried. I'm pretty sure they'd still be fine on 20" but going up another whole tone to A-to-A might be pushing it farther than I'd want to go.

    I still think of this as an A-to-A instrument, so a couple of times when I really needed that, I capoed on 2. But now I have a tenor scale for A-ro-A so don't need to do that with the bari.
    Thanks for the strings info. By any chance do you know the difference between flat and round wound ?
    Pono Acacia Tenor
    Pono Mahogany Concert
    Pono Mahogany Soprano
    Anuenue Concert Banjolele
    Kolaoha Opio Concert Longneck
    UkeSA Pineapple Sunday Concert
    Cocobolo Concert
    Romero Creations Baritone B6

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    I've been considering a guilele or small guitar with Terz tuning. One of my concerns is the much wider neck of a nylon 6 string. I play a lot of 1 3/4" guitars so perhaps the slimmer neck of the Romero would work. I looked up a few builders to see what they had. Kinnnard had a great sounding KiKu size available but is a steel string. I play guitar in a bluegrass group and a "contra" baritone, Tenor guitar size nylon strung, in a uke group.I imagine I would be playing this smaller instrument in the uke group so am looking for a nylon strung.

    Any suggestions? Would like to keep under 1500 or so. Would like a bari 19-21" scale tune G-g.

    Congrats bigtime on the Romero Contralls. Will have to check it out.

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    To my limited knowledge there is the cordoba mini which is 20” scale. I think the nut on that is a bit wider. There is also the Kanile’a 6 string but I cant recall the scale length right now. I used to play acoustic guitars. Mostly strumming chords and singing with friends when I was a teenager. Took me awhile to get used to the ukulele string spacing. Having not played guitar for many many years I occasionally would take them out to have a go at it till my fingers hurt and then stop(which isn’t very Long due to the steel strings). Now when I take them out it feels so cramp! I am sure you’ll be able to adapt. It just feels weird for the very first time...
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    Pono Mahogany Concert
    Pono Mahogany Soprano
    Anuenue Concert Banjolele
    Kolaoha Opio Concert Longneck
    UkeSA Pineapple Sunday Concert
    Cocobolo Concert
    Romero Creations Baritone B6

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    Quote Originally Posted by Contrails View Post
    Thanks for the strings info. By any chance do you know the difference between flat and round wound ?
    Sure. If you're not familiar with flat wound, then the strings you are used to are round wound. If you look really closely, you can see the ridges because the outer wire is round. This is cheaper and easier but produces a string more prone to noise as you rub along the ridges. With flat wound, the outer wire is a ribbon wrapped around the inner core with the flat side out so you end up with a string much smoother. It's also generally stiffer and with a tone not as bright.

    Quote Originally Posted by Patrick Madsen View Post
    Any suggestions? Would like to keep under 1500 or so. Would like a bari 19-21" scale tune G-g.
    If you can get on his schedule, I highly recommend Jonathan Dale. AFAIK, his prices are still a good bit under your budget and he can make the string spacing however you like. I know he does 19" or 20" and like I said, Terz is easily achieved with standard classical guitar sets.

    If you want to try a narrow 19" for a whole lot less, try the Cordoba C1m 1/4 size. Elderly lists it for $159 but out of stock. It's laminate so a little on the quiet side but not a bad sound at all.

    I have some videos on both. I can find and post the links if you're interested.
    Ukulele:
    Iriguchi Tenor "Weeble" - A, WoU Clarity
    Blue Star 19" baritone Konablaster - DGBE
    Cocobolo 16" SC#1-gCEA, SC SLMU
    Ono #42 19" baritone, Ab, LW
    Imua iET-Bb, M600
    Covered Bridge CLN pineapple - Eb cuatro, SC XLL
    Rogue bari
    Bonanza super tenor, cFAD SC LHU
    Kala KSLNG, Eb SC XLU
    Hanson 5-string tenor, dGCEA
    Bonanza SLN GCEA
    Southern Cross concert GCEA
    Guitars:
    Jupiter #47, G, TI CF127
    Pelem, B reentrant
    Jupiter #71, A, UG1

    !Flukutronic!

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    Congratulations!
    Your recording is lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mountain goat View Post
    Congratulations!
    Your recording is lovely.
    Thank you. You are too kind!
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    Kolaoha Opio Concert Longneck
    UkeSA Pineapple Sunday Concert
    Cocobolo Concert
    Romero Creations Baritone B6

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