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    I've been doing a lot of woodworking and using a lot of glue, and I needed more. I looked at Amazon and then at Lowe's. Better prices at Lowe's. Then I got a surprise. A gallon of Titebond III costs $29, and the II costs $18. After watching a comparison on YouTube - on Project Farm - it was an easy choice. I bought the Titebond II.

    By the way, these glue bottles are great - FASTCAP GLU-BOT. I saw woodworkers using them on YouTube, so I bought one. It makes a huge difference when applying glue.

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    Oh boy! We are talkin' glue, my favorite subject.

    Not sure that TII was the best choice Jerry. TII is a cross-linking polyvinyl acetate type glue designed for outdoor use due to it's resistance to water as in rain because it contains poly urethanes. Ukuleles are rarely subjected to rain. By contrast, TI, also known as "original Titebond" is an Aliphatic resin emulsion which does not contain poly urethanes like TII. The problem with TII as used in ukulele construction is that if something has to be disassembled (what could possibly go wrong?), using steam/heat, the TII will resist making it harder to get glued wood pieces apart. TII is great stuff for building a gazebo in your backyard, not so much for building ukuleles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sequoia View Post
    Oh boy! We are talkin' glue, my favorite subject.

    Not sure that TII was the best choice Jerry. TII is a cross-linking polyvinyl acetate type glue designed for outdoor use due to it's resistance to water as in rain because it contains poly urethanes. Ukuleles are rarely subjected to rain. By contrast, TI, also known as "original Titebond" is an Aliphatic resin emulsion which does not contain poly urethanes like TII. The problem with TII as used in ukulele construction is that if something has to be disassembled (what could possibly go wrong?), using steam/heat, the TII will resist making it harder to get glued wood pieces apart. TII is great stuff for building a gazebo in your backyard, not so much for building ukuleles.
    Thanks, but this won't be for ukulele building. I'm making things in the garage, a router table for one. If and when I make another uke, I'll use the T-III.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerryc41 View Post
    Thanks, but this won't be for ukulele building. I'm making things in the garage, a router table for one. If and when I make another uke, I'll use the T-III.
    I think that TIII is even more inappropriate for ukulele construction than TII. TIII is an "Advanced Proprietary Polymer" preparation (what ever that means which is nothing). It's main feature is its long open times (8-10 minutes) which is not an advantage in lutherie. It is also a water resistant glue and states is "Not for structural or load bearing applications". A bridge is definitely a load bearing situation.

    Sure, you can probably build an ukulele using TIII, but there are much better alternative.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sequoia View Post
    ...there are much better alternative.
    Good to know.
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    Use hide glue for anything that might need repairing in future.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sequoia View Post
    I think that TIII is even more inappropriate for ukulele construction than TII. TIII is an "Advanced Proprietary Polymer" preparation (what ever that means which is nothing). It's main feature is its long open times (8-10 minutes) which is not an advantage in lutherie. It is also a water resistant glue and states is "Not for structural or load bearing applications". A bridge is definitely a load bearing situation.

    Sure, you can probably build an ukulele using TIII, but there are much better alternative.
    MY first build was a Stewmac kit. They recommended TIII specifically for the build. Had to go buy a small bottle because all I had was TI in the shop. Anyone need a barely used pint of TIII it is available?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Carter View Post
    MY first build was a Stewmac kit. They recommended TIII specifically for the build.
    I have no idea why they would recommend TIII for a kit build but maybe it had to do with the fast tack times and the long open times as in "S---! that part is up-side down!" so they could fix the problem before the glue sets. Who knows.

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    Hi Dibblet...I enjoyed that , lots of good info there...I met Tim Hunkin at a festival in Stockton about 25 years ago where i was working...and we had a long chat... He's a brilliant guy.
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