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    Default New machine on the way...

    So after about a one year break from making proper wooden ukes (as opposed to banjo ukes) I've started back up again with a couple concerts begun this past weekend. It only took half an hour or so of hand feeding my home made thickness sander to convince me that I need to upgrade (what a PITA standing in front of that thing is!).

    This morning I'd narrowed it down to the Jet 10-20 and (as a distant second) the Grizzly G0716. Spent a couple hours reading manuals and reviews and in the end went with the Grizzly.

    The biggest apparent drawback to the Grizzly, as far as luthier work is concerned, is the published 1/4" minimum work thickness. I think they are just being overly cautious or something though - according to the manual there is a stop screw which you can adjust to "keep the drum from hitting the belt" (I'm paraphrasing), and the recommendation is to go with 1/4" clearance. I don't see why it can't be adjusted down to 1/16"... I'll find out soon enough

    Other factors: The Grizzly is made out of cast iron and weighs 159 pounds, the Jet from steel and weighs 79 pounds. I like heavy iron things. The Grizzly comes with a stand with wheels, no stand at all with the Jet. Not the deciding factor, but nonetheless a factor, the Jet would cost around 300 bucks more when all is said and done.

    Being a holiday week I'm sure I won't get it till mid *next* week; I'll report back then .

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    I bought that Grizzly thickness sander and it won't go down thinner than advertized even when you drop the stop so I use a carrier board underneath. I haven't had to double sticky tape it but the machine won't take too heavy a cut before it wants to stall out anyways. It's OK for what I am doing and the quantities I am running through it but one of my cabinet friends has a sander that has two rollers on it. One coarse and one fine roller. Very nice
    My Real name is Terry Harris

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    My Jet 10-20 worked great until the bolts holding the head detached themselves from their fixing. Getting the assembly back in place was a nightmare and now I can barely sand down to 1.85mm with the last 6mm being very 'sticky'. I will have to service this machine thoroughly soon. My advice - make sure it is properly put together and set up. It's a great machine - use only cloth backed sanding paper in it!

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    Changing the paper in the Grizzly was a PITA. Perhaps they have made it easier since I bought mine but threading the end of the paper into the clamp where it needs to go had me pullin my hair. The drive side is the worst and once you figure how it goes it's not as bad but the space is small and if you have big hands it makes it tougher. I had to shim under the table on the drive side to get the table and the roller parallel.
    My Real name is Terry Harris

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    Performax?

    I used to have a Woodmaster and it was very good for limited production. Now I have a big wide-belt sander, and it's great...but needs a major overhaul after 7 years of hard labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pete Howlett View Post
    I will have to service this machine thoroughly soon.
    Thats what i've been doing for the last couple of days..oiling and greasing lathe chucks shafts and slides and bearings..adjusting gibbstrips.. replacing dodgy roller bearings..and and removing rust and touching up paint..if you want em to last you've got to look after e'm
    One of the lathes dates back to 1912 and still performs great...
    And Dave I think i've have gone for the Grizzly myself co's I like cast iron stuff as well but I dont know a supplier in the UK...But my Jet 10-20 still works fine.
    Last edited by Timbuck; 11-22-2011 at 08:30 AM.

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    The issue with at least some Grizzly stuff is not the iron, it's everything else...plastic handles on adjustments that break, underpowered motors, weird internal parts not aligning, bearings going prematurely bad. And sometime it is the iron...like threads in cast iron tearing out. I'm not sure that I'll ever buy any more tools from Grizzly. Jet, even ShopFox, and the import Powermatic and Delta stuff is likely better. I could have bought a Grizzly resaw with all the fancy readouts and motorized conveyor height stuff; ditto on a wide belt sander. I went with more expensive and simpler stuff made in the USA...a Baker resaw and a Halsty (now SafetySpeedCut) wide belt sander, and I'm not sorry for either expensive purchase (actually lease-purchase)...$14,000.00 per machine, and both have paid for themselves. This is kind of like going for Festool hand held power tools. Outrageously expensive...unless you use them every day for years...and then they are inexpensive for how much work you get out of them.

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    Trouble is I need you here Ken to show me how to do it properly - I'm an autodidact when it comes to this stuff...

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    17 1/2 hours 'till the truck is supposed to be here

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    From the big truck to my little truck, uncrated and lifted up, waiting for me to assemble the stand:




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