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    Please don't ask people to do songs that are later than 1922 or otherwise copyrighted material, unless it's their own original works. This is just asking people to make videos that will jeopardize their YouTube accounts or wherever else they might upload their videos.

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    There have been many contests held with 100+ entries, all covers with no issues that I can recall... Most of us post covers of our own accord regardless of contests. If someone chooses to participate in a contest knowing that YouTube sometimes gives grief over covers of songs (Ridiculous, considering some of the most popular YouTube channels consist of ALL covers), that's their choice.
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    Songs after 1922 can be covered.

    It is important to understand Fair Use and how it relates to music and YouTube.

    Here are sites I have found helpful.

    http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

    There are four basic tests used to determine if copyrighted work can be used under the protection of Fair Use.

    This site offers a good summation of those tests.

    http://socialtimes.com/fair-use-youtube_b61891

    So here's the thing. Most songs are originally intended as either entertainment, art, or biography.

    So if your recording doesn't change the nature of the work, then you're in trouble.

    But by TRANSFORMING the nature of the work into something else such as educational is covered as fair use.

    So I highly encourage everyone to describe the transformational nature of their videos in the video itself AND in the video info.

    Another easy way to stay off Youtube's radar is to NOT put the song name and artist in the video's title. Put something like Ukulele Underground Cool Cat Contest as the title.

    Hope this helps.
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    After having 163 entries for my last contest, all covers BTW, I see the "laws" as total crap. By doing it I am asking people to "Break the law" to prove a point. No law shall be created that can not be enforced. If people are making money on it, sure, shut them down, but screw the system for trying to stop people from making music. Honestly the recording industry has too much power and the more we decent the more likely they are to get the message.
    The song writer, singer, or bands are not sending the notices, it is the greedy record companies that are too slow to realize that the market has changed and that all of us that play and record the music do it for the love and are really showing our apriciation for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by itsscottwilder View Post
    Songs after 1922 can be covered.

    It is important to understand Fair Use and how it relates to music and YouTube.

    Here are sites I have found helpful.

    http://www.copyright.gov/fls/fl102.html

    There are four basic tests used to determine if copyrighted work can be used under the protection of Fair Use.

    This site offers a good summation of those tests.

    http://socialtimes.com/fair-use-youtube_b61891

    So here's the thing. Most songs are originally intended as either entertainment, art, or biography.

    So if your recording doesn't change the nature of the work, then you're in trouble.

    But by TRANSFORMING the nature of the work into something else such as educational is covered as fair use.

    So I highly encourage everyone to describe the transformational nature of their videos in the video itself AND in the video info.

    Another easy way to stay off Youtube's radar is to NOT put the song name and artist in the video's title. Put something like Ukulele Underground Cool Cat Contest as the title.

    Hope this helps.
    Thanks very much for the useful information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ukeeku View Post
    After having 163 entries for my last contest, all covers BTW, I see the "laws" as total crap. By doing it I am asking people to "Break the law" to prove a point. No law shall be created that can not be enforced. If people are making money on it, sure, shut them down, but screw the system for trying to stop people from making music. Honestly the recording industry has too much power and the more we decent the more likely they are to get the message.
    The song writer, singer, or bands are not sending the notices, it is the greedy record companies that are too slow to realize that the market has changed and that all of us that play and record the music do it for the love and are really showing our apriciation for it.
    That's all well and good, and I agree with you wholeheartedly. However, getting one's videos flagged and eventually losing one's channel and all the videos is the upshot. I'll just quote a song that I'm NOT going to do, as it's not within the "safe" time frame: "I stood for the union, I walked in the line, fought against the company. I stood for the UMW of A, now who's gonna stand for me?" ("Coal Tattoo") In other words, who's gonna help us out when they "come for us"? You? Are there really enough of us to fight them? Or do we have enough money to fight them in the courts?

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    Every cover on You Tube of copyrighted material is there 'illegally' - unless you have permission from the copyright holder. It's up to the owner - not YouTube - to enforce their copyright. This obviously doesn't happen very often, but it is their right - it's their intellectual property.

    I've had a couple of videos flagged - instead of removing the video, they 'monetized' the page, placing an add to the original artist on the video page. This is a win-win situation.

    I've also had several videos fraudulently flagged by a group calling itself the "Music Copyright Collection Society". This is a scam - they're just trying to place adds on the video page to generate revenue. I've used the YouTube dispute process to have these third-party content matches removed - it's quick and easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 23skidoo View Post
    Every cover on You Tube of copyrighted material is there 'illegally' - unless you have permission from the copyright holder. It's up to the owner - not YouTube - to enforce their copyright. This obviously doesn't happen very often, but it is their right - it's their intellectual property.

    I've had a couple of videos flagged - instead of removing the video, they 'monetized' the page, placing an add to the original artist on the video page. This is a win-win situation.

    I've also had several videos fraudulently flagged by a group calling itself the "Music Copyright Collection Society". This is a scam - they're just trying to place adds on the video page to generate revenue. I've used the YouTube dispute process to have these third-party content matches removed - it's quick and easy.
    Thanks! I'm going to put back the videos that were flagged. I'm hoping for ads and not worse. How did you dispute the "Music Copyright Collection Society" stuff? And by the way, there is a very little box to write in, on the dispute page. How can you have more room? I contested the flagging of "Flight of the Bumble Bee" (written in 1899 by Rimsky-Korsakov).

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    There is a bunch of good threads on this forum about the recen YouTube upheaval.
    I have a couple of submissions with MATCHED content, YouTube states that they might attach ads to these vids and remunerate the copyright owners. We realy need to make a distinction between covers for fun and blatant violation by uploading movies/shows or other originals.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chrimess View Post
    There is a bunch of good threads on this forum about the recen YouTube upheaval.
    I have a couple of submissions with MATCHED content, YouTube states that they might attach ads to these vids and remunerate the copyright owners. We realy need to make a distinction between covers for fun and blatant violation by uploading movies/shows or other originals.
    I haven't seen the recent threads about YouTube, only the ones back in early 2010. Could you please point the way?

    I'm making a separate channel for anything that's questionable. My main channel will contain only my originals, anything before 1922, and covers of friends' songs. On the secondary channel, I'm going to put back the ones that might get ads on them.

    Thanks!

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