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    Default installing new tuning pegs

    i decided i hate friction tuners. end of story.
    i bought new grover geared tuners, and i run into a slight speed bump. youll see what i mean. yes, those are glasses.

    the new "seat" as i have been calling it, is too big for the original hole. is it safe to sand down or should i take it to a shop and have the hole widened?
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    Good upgrade. Judging by the bushing you are showing, the Grovers you have seem to be of the open geared variety. In the shop these holes would commonly be enlargened with a hand reamer. You need to go up to 23/64" or slightly smaller than 3/8". I really wouldn't use a drill bit for doing this as the bit might grab in the hole and take a chunk out of the wood. Luthier reamers for doing this are expensive-about $45. In lieu of a reamer I think you can do an adequate job of enlargening the holes with a simple rat tail wood file available at any hardware store. The bushings are press-fit. If you get the hole too large, simply apply a very small drop of white glue to the bushing when installing.
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    Kaneohe,
    I've tinkered around a bit with changing out friction tuners for geared ones. What I failed to check was the height of the string post. The friction tuners I had were very short in comparision to the grover tuners, so, when I installed the grover tuners, the string height was too high and did not apply any pressure on the nut. Since I had already drilled out the hole (yes, drill bits pull chunks off), I couldn't return to the friction tuners unless I refilled and redrilled the holes. I searched for geared tuners with a shorter string post with no luck.

    I've had grover friction tuners on a few of my ukes and found that in time, they start slipping and the only way to keep them from slipping would be to replace the fiber washer or tighten the screw so tight that restringing was a workout.

    Switching over to geared tuners has been wonderful for keeping my ukes in tune. It does add significant weight to the head, which some people dislike. For me it's a good tradeoff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moore Bettah Ukuleles View Post
    BTW, I love all the holes in the headstock. What the ****?
    Kamaka gave this to my grandpa after his HFD unit responded to a fire at the factory. I don't know what happened, but my gramps or someone else tried to convert it to a 6 string. So there was 6 tuning pegs, but only 4 pegs in the bridge. MGM cleaned it up and filled the extra 2 holes with wax.
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    ulu, why not just cut the top of the tuner posts off and drill a new hole using a drill press at the correct position? Also, use a grinder or file and round off the sharp cut at the top of the posts. Then, you'd be good to go...e.lo.......
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    Wax!!! That's a new one on me.
    Ulua Pounder, I have long and short posts for the Grover open geared tuners if you need.
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    E-Lo, I thought of cutting and redrilling but gave up before even trying. Didn't want to mess perfectly good tuners.

    Chuck, we'll see, this tenor has issues. It was a 6 string which had too narrow of a neck for all the strings, came with no saddle, the finish started wearing to the wood on the neck, and the top is bowing. I made a new nut, redrilled the bridge, made a saddle, resprayed the finish, and chopped off two tuners, now it's a 4-string. Did a shoddy job at all of this but the uke was already unplayable. I'll stick to playing, and not building/tweaking.

    Kaneohe, keep us updated on your tuner upgrade.
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    Quote Originally Posted by uluapoundr View Post
    E-Lo, I thought of cutting and redrilling but gave up before even trying. Didn't want to mess perfectly good tuners.

    Chuck, we'll see, this tenor has issues. It was a 6 string which had too narrow of a neck for all the strings, came with no saddle, the finish started wearing to the wood on the neck, and the top is bowing. I made a new nut, redrilled the bridge, made a saddle, resprayed the finish, and chopped off two tuners, now it's a 4-string. Did a shoddy job at all of this but the uke was already unplayable. I'll stick to playing, and not building/tweaking.

    Kaneohe, keep us updated on your tuner upgrade.
    Will do, I think this is going to my weekend project. I definitely should check the posts as well, to see if they're too big. I would have never thought of that on my own.
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    Uluapoundr, You ever have humbug with you ukes, bring 'em by the shop for repair. I work for fish you know!
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    Ulua, I just remembered. I have some mini grovers that are a bit too short for one of my custom ukes I built. Maybe we could just trade...e.lo...
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