::Leader Board:: Ahnko Honu Takes The Lead Chapter 23!

PereBourik said:

My resistance (get it?) to electric cars is a combination of range and recharge. I know that there is a growing network of charging stations, but the time to “fill up” remains too long. I like a cross country road trip. I’m on one now.

Autonomous cars would be a boon to people like my MIL. Shouldn’t be driving, but is. I don’t think she’d give up control though.

There for the generation behind mine, I think.

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PereBourik said:

My resistance (get it?) to electric cars is a combination of range and recharge. I know that there is a growing network of charging stations, but the time to “fill up” remains too long. I like a cross country road trip. I’m on one now.

Autonomous cars would be a boon to people like my MIL. Shouldn’t be driving, but is. I don’t think she’d give up control though.

There for the generation behind mine, I think.

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mailman said:

There may be a growing network of recharging stations, but not here. Not yet.

I can't even think of one place, locally. I'd have to be able to be sure I could get the car home before it ran out of charge, and then be stuck there as long as it took to recharge it....

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mailman said:

There may be a growing network of recharging stations, but not here. Not yet.

I can't even think of one place, locally. I'd have to be able to be sure I could get the car home before it ran out of charge, and then be stuck there as long as it took to recharge it....

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PereBourik said:

Computer errors ARE human errors as long as humans are still programming them.

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Ukulelerob said:

On longer journeys, for sure at least at this time, I don't know how practical they are. Most of my stuff is <100 miles away. So they would probably work.

Now the next question is how long do the original batteries last. And when they are in need of changing, what's the cost.
Can the old batteries be recycled efficiently? Or are they more of a hardship on the environment than we might think?

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Pueo said:

Yes.
Kawaipunahele, Maunaleo.
The guitarist at our wedding played Maunaleo.
I play Hanohano Ka Lei Pikake on the boat.
I also play Ipo Lei Momi sometimes.

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Ukulelerob said:

On Google maps I saw about 15 places in Rochester, NY near the lake on the north, 390 east side, 590 west side, 252 on the south side boxed in area.

Now what it cost to charge, I have no idea.

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gyosh said:

I've had a kid do a research project stating that the carbon foot print of a battery powered car (resources to make the battery and disposal) creates a bigger foot print than a gas engine car.

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mailman said:

There may be a growing network of recharging stations, but not here. Not yet.

I can't even think of one place, locally. I'd have to be able to be sure I could get the car home before it ran out of charge, and then be stuck there as long as it took to recharge it....

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mailman said:

There may be a growing network of recharging stations, but not here. Not yet.

I can't even think of one place, locally. I'd have to be able to be sure I could get the car home before it ran out of charge, and then be stuck there as long as it took to recharge it....

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gyosh said:

I've had a kid do a research project stating that the carbon foot print of a battery powered car (resources to make the battery and disposal) creates a bigger foot print than a gas engine car.

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bbycrts said:

The carbon footprint is highly variable depending on how your utility generates its electricity. In my area, where the majority of the electricity comes from hydro power, the carbon footprint is quite low. In areas that use coal for the majority of their generation it will be quite a bit higher. No study I've seen (that wasn't conducted by a high school kid) has ever shown electric cars to have a larger carbon footprint than internal combustion engines - not even close.

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gyosh said:

This kid just did a study on the Prius and specifically the battery manufacturing and disposal. He was bummed. His research was contrary to what he thought it would be. From what I remember the mining process for the chemicals in the battery, the manufacturing process and it's damage to the earth when disposed were more damaging than a gas powered car over the lifetime of the cars. He set out to prove that electric cars need to replace fossil fuel cars.

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bbycrts said:

Oh - now environmental impact is a different argument! Lithium (used in the batteries) only has a couple of really good sources, from what I've heard, and obtaining it is pretty rough on the environment from which it comes. There's a dry lake in Chile that's basically flooded, the brine allowed to concentrate, and then stripped away.

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gyosh said:

Maybe environmental impact was what he was measuring. It was for an FBLA project and I just helped him with proofread his paper. It stands out in my mind because of how bummed he was about his findings.

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