Strings Low G SNG soprano supplied with brown string

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Hi all. I'm brand new here and new to ukes. I ordered a set of Aquila low g SNG soprano strings and was expecting a 0.67mm wound G string. Instead it had a rough redish brown string around 0.98mm as the G string. The supplier says that's how they're supplied now (I'm in Australia). Is this right?
The string doesn't fit in the nut slot so I have to figure out how to widen the slot. Any info or advice would be appreciated.
Thanks
 
What does "SNG soprano strings" mean?

I do know that the strings called "Aquila Red Series" here in the USA do sometimes come with a red wound G string and sometimes with a slightly thicker red unwound string. Hard to tell which you will get until you open the package.
 
This is surprising. My first set of Aquila was a low G Super Nylgut that had a red low G which I loved. But then a few years ago they replaced it with a wound low G in the newer sets because they felt it was a better match. I totally disagree with that, and the wound Aquilas also wear out fast. So if you mean SNG is Super Nylgut you are lucky to have received an old set. But be super careful with installation and do all the repetitive stretching that is shown in the installation video.
 
fwiw - I've been using red unwound strings for the past few years and don't do any of the repetitive stretching or other precautions that Aquila used to recommend. I think the first couple of generations of the red strings (more than 10 years ago) were very fragile, but Aquila apparently remedied this years ago and now I don't do anything special during installation. I do only use the red low-G string, not the thinner red strings.
 
Per the Strings by Mail site, and confirmed when I bought a set, the low G soprano set labeled 84U comes with a wound G. I had to order single unwound low G Reds separately.

From their site (but I think it's Aquila wording):

"Aquila RED Soprano Ukulele Strings Regular Low G Tuning 84U, Full Set of Ukulele Strings - Key of C – GCEA - Red Series - 4th Red Wound"
 
What does "SNG soprano strings" mean?

I do know that the strings called "Aquila Red Series" here in the USA do sometimes come with a red wound G string and sometimes with a slightly thicker red unwound string. Hard to tell which you will get until you open the package.
Sorry man0a. By SNG I meant Super Nylgut. The Aquila site doesn't mention alternatives but if they do random substitutions for their Red Series low G then maybe they do for the Super Nylgut too. Thanks. That helps.
 
This is surprising. My first set of Aquila was a low G Super Nylgut that had a red low G which I loved. But then a few years ago they replaced it with a wound low G in the newer sets because they felt it was a better match. I totally disagree with that, and the wound Aquilas also wear out fast. So if you mean SNG is Super Nylgut you are lucky to have received an old set. But be super careful with installation and do all the repetitive stretching that is shown in the installation video.
Yes I was surprised. Maybe they just had old stock. I'll consider myself lucky and I'll check out the video. What's the repetitive stretching for? Is it just to make the tuning stable or is there another problem?
 
fwiw - I've been using red unwound strings for the past few years and don't do any of the repetitive stretching or other precautions that Aquila used to recommend. I think the first couple of generations of the red strings (more than 10 years ago) were very fragile, but Aquila apparently remedied this years ago and now I don't do anything special during installation. I do only use the red low-G string, not the thinner red strings.
Thanks again. I'm feeling better about it. I'm going to a hardware store today to get some welding torch nozzle cleaners which I've read can be used to file the nut slot. Wish me luck. This is all new to me.
 
Per the Strings by Mail site, and confirmed when I bought a set, the low G soprano set labeled 84U comes with a wound G. I had to order single unwound low G Reds separately.

From their site (but I think it's Aquila wording):

"Aquila RED Soprano Ukulele Strings Regular Low G Tuning 84U, Full Set of Ukulele Strings - Key of C – GCEA - Red Series - 4th Red Wound"
That's good to know. Thanks TerryM. It'll be interesting to see what I get next time. I'll try to remember to try a different supplier.
 
Yes I was surprised. Maybe they just had old stock. I'll consider myself lucky and I'll check out the video. What's the repetitive stretching for? Is it just to make the tuning stable or is there another problem?
It's been a while that I installed one of them but they take some time to settle in so I think they need to be pulled on and stretched by hand a few times before getting fully tuned up. This is also supposed to prevent premature failure. The one I had that came in the set lasted many years.
 
Thanks again. I'm feeling better about it. I'm going to a hardware store today to get some welding torch nozzle cleaners which I've read can be used to file the nut slot. Wish me luck. This is all new to me.
Those don't work so great, worse than folded sandpaper.
 
Those don't work so great, worse than folded sandpaper.
So are special nut slot files the way to go? I actually picked up some fine sandpaper in case I needed to try the method I read about folding the sandpaper around an appropriately sized string. While going from there to a car spare parts place to get the nozzle cleaners I was feeling reluctant to change the nut so stopped at a guitar store and got a set of New Nylgut low G strings for a similar price to the nozzle cleaners. They only had Concert sets in stock (but horror of horrors I'm tuning down to DGBE which is slack of me I know) so that was even better.
Nut slot adjustment averted. And thanks for the warning badhabits.
 
It's been a while that I installed one of them but they take some time to settle in so I think they need to be pulled on and stretched by hand a few times before getting fully tuned up. This is also supposed to prevent premature failure. The one I had that came in the set lasted many years.
You'll see in my reply to badhabits that I'm using a wound New Nylgut 0.70mm G in a Concert set. I still have the unwound Red G that I'm sure I'll use somewhere. I'll bear your tip in mind when I do.
 
I've found that those nozzle cleaners don't have much bite and don't cut well...although they can be decent for smoothing the slot.

IIWM, I would try folded sandpaper (stay parallel to the headstock) with a finer grit for final smoothing (then use the pencil lead trick if you want). You could get special nut files, but better ones cost $$$...if you're not gonna use them much it may not be worth it. although like most jobs, the proper tool makes it easier/faster.

If you're really nervous about it you might make sure the nut on the uke is replaceable (most are, unless integrated into the fretboard), just in case or if you ever want to change back. Then check often to make sure you don't make the slot too wide. I'd start with a thinner string if folding the paper over it (I don't), cuz you'll need to account for the thickness of the sandpaper (2x).
 
I've found that those nozzle cleaners don't have much bite and don't cut well...although they can be decent for smoothing the slot.

IIWM, I would try folded sandpaper (stay parallel to the headstock) with a finer grit for final smoothing (then use the pencil lead trick if you want). You could get special nut files, but better ones cost $$$...if you're not gonna use them much it may not be worth it. although like most jobs, the proper tool makes it easier/faster.

If you're really nervous about it you might make sure the nut on the uke is replaceable (most are, unless integrated into the fretboard), just in case or if you ever want to change back. Then check often to make sure you don't make the slot too wide. I'd start with a thinner string if folding the paper over it (I don't), cuz you'll need to account for the thickness of the sandpaper (2x).
That's all good stuff to know. Thanks. I'm sure I'll have to widen a slot one day since I'm accumulating ukes at an alarming rate. Not only did I fit a set of New Nylgut Concert strings to the soprano avoiding the need to widen the slot, but I also tested the Supernylgut using a UV light after finding mimmo's post about fake Nylgut strings since the apparent Red series G amongst a Supernylgut set seemed suspicious. Turned out they were fakes. I was able to compare them to genuine ones and there was no doubt so I'm sending them back. It all worked out in the end.
 
Yes it was 10 years ago that the YouTube video mimmo linked to was posted. I got them on ebay. I don't know that the seller knew they were fake. I'll have to see how they react when they get them back. They're a long time ebay store with a 99.3% positive rating located in Australia. They may be victims but as specialist string suppliers they should be on the lookout for fakes.
 
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